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Quote: Mrs Barista " Currently Yeaman is better than Welham defensively, that's why he's in the international team. End of story.
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This is true, but there was actually more to it than a Yeaman/Welham battle. Shenton's injury in the Grand Final handed Yeaman a call up (in my opinion of course).

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Quote: SirStan "You think Crooks will be ready for international football in 12 months time?

When 1 of Shenton, Atkins or Bridge are actually fit in October & November, Yeaman will be a shoe in for an extended off season.'"

Are internationals here or in Australia next year? If overseas, Yeaman will have declared himself unavailable anyway by then. Doesn't like to venture far, our Kirk. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Marfa Manu "The facts are simple...The squad was chosen from last season's performances, as pointed out previously Welham clearly was not a more potent attacking player than Yeaman, he scored 1 more try, but his defense was a lot worse than Yeaman......Believe me it is not just McNamara who has this opinion, the facts & stats simply do not lie!!!
You come out with statements and fail to back them with anything resembling a solid fact...There are a number of players who should be in the team if we check their stats out for the last god knows how many years
Prove me wrong time and time again??
Feel free to list these fantasies
Are you ignorant,deluded or just plain stupid.
I have not once disputed that Yeaman is stronger in defence.
You cannot accept Welham is better in attack and because Yeaman had a decent try tally last season it doesn't put him on a par.
If Bobby Zamora scores more goals than Torres this season that doesn't make him the better attacker overall
Yeaman would not have saved some of the tries Welham did this season,they are different types of players.
Welham is faster,more athetic and more skilful then Yeaman
I could also throw in another fact in the the Champions Leeds made enquiries to sign Welham,not Yeaman.
You much more amusing across on your own forum pretending to be in the know about signing Rangi Chase then on here pretending to be some female Waynetta Bennett.

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Quote: SirStan "This is true, but there was actually more to it than a Yeaman/Welham battle. Shenton's injury in the Grand Final handed Yeaman a call up (in my opinion of course).'"

Correct. But that makes it even more disappointing for the heir apparent (Welham) to have been overlooked as the 6th best English centre (after Reed, Atkins, Shenton, Bridge and Senior (retired icon_wink.gif )) in favour of a pedestrian halfwit like Yeaman. Bad times for East Hull's finest. Hearing he's also only your 6th favourite ginger after gingerspice, Little Robin Redhead, Chris Evans, Janet Devlin and Peter Elliott. Needs to raise his game. And stop modelling womens clothing. I'm sure he will. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Are internationals here or in Australia next year? If overseas, Yeaman will have declared himself unavailable anyway by then. Doesn't like to venture far, our Kirk.
How very convenient! icon_wink.gif

I thought it was Kingy who did the "BA Baracus" impression when it came to air travel?

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Quote: Jake the Peg "Doubt welham will get near an international shirt unless he has a scottish grandfather. Once yeaman is out of the picture ben crooks will be a shoe in for the GB/England team'"


He is certainly getting big wraps but after proclaiming Tommy Lee as a superstar at the same age hopefully he doesn't go the same way,although Lee now has a good chance to finally fulfill his potential at Hudds

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Correct. But that makes it even more disappointing for the heir apparent (Welham) to have been overlooked as the 6th best English centre (after Reed, Atkins, Shenton, Bridge and Senior (retired
Oh, I'm firmly in the "he's a long way off" camp, and you can add James Webster to your list (he was temporarily suspended, but a change in employers has seen him re-enter at the expense of Sonia).

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Hmm..you do need to factor in the fact Hull have had no halfbacks to speak of since Cooke left. How did Yeaman go in the last season we had a decent halfback combo? Yes, that's right, he was handing them off like a ramrod in the Dream Team. Currently Yeaman is better than Welham defensively, that's why he's in the international
team. End of story.


BTW I thought Gil Dudson had a cracking first half tonight (got bored in the second, mind). You were correct, he would have been a good signing for Rovers.'"


So Welham's try tally with no Dobson who controlled the left edge attack for a chunk of the season was more impressive on that basis. icon_wink.gif
Dudson impressed me last season,barnstorming run at CP to set up a try.
Would of been a more than useful addition and Rovers did offer him a contract but once Wigan came in that was that.

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Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "So Welham's try tally with no Dobson who controlled the left edge attack for a chunk of the season was more impressive on that basis. Eh? Yeaman's had no half back for 5 seasons. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "Prove me wrong time and time again??
Feel free to list these fantasies
Are you ignorant,deluded or just plain stupid.
I have not once disputed that Yeaman is stronger in defence.
You cannot accept Welham is better in attack and because Yeaman had a decent try tally last season it doesn't put him on a par.
If Bobby Zamora scores more goals than Torres this season that doesn't make him the better attacker overall
Yeaman would not have saved some of the tries Welham did this season,they are different types of players.
Welham is faster,more athetic and more skilful then Yeaman
I could also throw in another fact in the the Champions Leeds made enquiries to sign Welham,not Yeaman.
You much more amusing across on your own forum pretending to be in the know about signing Rangi Chase then on here pretending to be some female Waynetta Bennett.'"

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You talk utter tripe, your knowledge is pants which has been proven several times by several people, also by me when you lost that bet to me by declaring Crusaders stood no chance of making the 8 and would finish bottom! (that was not a fantasie it was real!)..You are like Zod you come out with grand statements yet fail to back these statements with evidence, you are unable to have a constructive discussion about any player who plays for FC because of you ingrained hatred of every-thing black and white (your infamous post as paintboy on your secret proved this point)
On the Rangi Chase signing i claimed to know nothing apart from what fans who spoke to him were told, so you are wrong yet again icon_lol.gif
I will discuss Yeamo & Welham with any-one who wishes to without wearing their tinted glasses because believe me I know more about both players than most on here including you icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Marfa Manu "icon_lol.gif
You talk utter tripe, your knowledge is pants which has been proven several times by several people, also by me when you lost that bet to me by declaring Crusaders stood no chance of making the 8 and would finish bottom! (that was not a fantasie it was real!)..You are like Zod you come out with grand statements yet fail to back these statements with evidence, you are unable to have a constructive discussion about any player who plays for FC because of you ingrained hatred of every-thing black and white (your infamous post as paintboy on your secret proved this point)
On the Rangi Chase signing i claimed to know nothing apart from what fans who spoke to him were told, so you are wrong yet again
So one prediction I made when the Crusaders over achieved as proven by their last finishing position is time and time again. Oh Dear.
I will need more than that I'm afraid Waynetta!
I gave my opinion on Welham/Yeaman and gave FACTS on their attacking prowess.
When your wrong you stick your head in the sand just like you are doing now.
I don't know which is funnier Paul M or Gordon Gekko making you look foolish everytime you engage in debate with them.
Anyhow I'm playing Martha bingo,throw in your brothers are ex players and your coaching certificates and I have four corners icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "So one prediction I made when the Crusaders over achieved as proven by their last finishing position is time and time again. Oh Dear.
I will need more than that I'm afraid Waynetta!
I gave my opinion on Welham/Yeaman and gave FACTS on their attacking prowess.
When your wrong you stick your head in the sand just like you are doing now.
I don't know which is funnier Paul M or Gordon Gekko making you look foolish everytime you engage in debate with them.
Anyhow I'm playing Martha bingo,throw in your brothers are ex players and your coaching certificates and I have four corners
I will be shouting for the England Team including Yeaman who is an East Hull Lad who once supported the Robins made even worse when some idiot ran on the pitch and assaulted him. He has gained his place in the team on merit and has got a great defence which is probably why he is in there over Welham.

Though Brisco was very slow on the interception and got caught by a second row Mannering !

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Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "So one prediction I made when the Crusaders over achieved as proven by their last finishing position is time and time again. Oh Dear.'"
It was a specific bet on a specific finishing position in a specific season. You lost and welched big time. Oh Dear.

Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "I gave my opinion on Welham/Yeaman and gave FACTS on their attacking prowess.'"
Selective stats and failing to factor in the absence of service to Hull's left edge by anything resembling a half back combination. 2006, last time FC had a halfback combo to speak of Yeaman When your wrong you stick your head in the sand just like you are doing now.I don't know which is funnier Paul M or Gordon Gekko making you look foolish everytime you engage in debate with them.'"

Your drinking chum Gordon Gekko? The one who said Danny Houghton had been overtaken by Josh Hodgson 2 years ago and that Craig Hall is the best centre in the city? Wow.

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Quote: Jake the Peg "Thought his special shorts were to keep the poop in when he cacks himself whenever yeaman goes near him'"

I'm sure Websters Derby record confirms that. How many has he lost in the four years he has been here?

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Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "So one prediction I made when the Crusaders over achieved as proven by their last finishing position is time and time again. Oh Dear.
I will need more than that I'm afraid Waynetta!
I gave my opinion on Welham/Yeaman and gave FACTS on their attacking prowess.
When your wrong you stick your head in the sand just like you are doing now.
I don't know which is funnier Paul M or Gordon Gekko making you look foolish everytime you engage in debate with them.
Anyhow I'm playing Martha bingo,throw in your brothers are ex players and your coaching certificates and I have four corners You offered stats which were irrelevant, like I have mentioned stats from previous seasons are irrelevant to choosing an International team for this year...I will give you an example Burrows,now if we looked at his stats over the last 3 years he would be 1st choice without a doubt, not sure which bit of this you do not understand...So you did not offer facts to support your argument, you also failed to mention defense which is a crucial part of a centres game.
Oh dear! clearly my post hit a nerve reading the rest of the post!! do you not feel a little silly resorting to calling me Waynetta like a child would because I said your knowledge it pants and you talk tripe!! ..the amazing thing is you have banned many FC fans on this board for name calling...

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