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| Quote: SirStan "Ta for the spoiler - that will save me watching the damn thing when I get in tonight ![]()
Gives you chance to go out and cut the grass.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "This is not intended as trolling, but an observation. Morgan has done an outstanding job at Rovers. His use in particular of overseas players has been excellent and particularly in the early days his tactical insight to work over opposition teams was really impressive. He's made some hard calls to offload players with time left on their contracts. I think he's not seen eye to eye with the board on a few key issues, though, being the retention of Cooke after their first big fall-out, but more recently the Mason debacle. IMO Mason was a signing driven not by the coach but by the commercial department, and Morgan gives the impression he likes to be in absolute control of his squad. This season his overt energy and commitment seem a notch or two lower than in previous seasons. I think the two points are linked. To use a Peter Sharpism, he seems to have lost his mojo a bit.
If I were a Rovers fan, I'd be disappointed, but reasonably ambivalent about losing Morgan as he's probably ready for a new challenge, but would be more concerned about who, if anyone, could end up following him playerwise. Given that his only 2 signings so far are 2011's most cited scapegoats, Netherton and Hodgson, maybe he's going early on an Agent Morgan mission for Wigan/Cas/whoever he's linked with next. ![]()
Be as it may but Mason, board signing or not was a potential gamebreaker if used right and even if Morgan didnt have him on a hit list he surely wouldnt have turned him down.
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| Quote: blakeysrobin "Be as it may but Mason, board signing or not was a potential gamebreaker if used right and even if Morgan didnt have him on a hit list he surely wouldnt have turned him down.'"
I'm suggesting that Morgan may have chosen to invest Mason's salary elsewhere if given a free hand. You already had Newton, Galea, Murrell, Cook, Netherton and Watts as backrow options. Perhaps Morgan would have rather used that cash for a top class hooker, or tackle-busting prop. |
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "I'm suggesting that Morgan may have chosen to invest Mason's salary elsewhere if given a free hand. You already had Newton, Galea, Murrell, Cook, Netherton and Watts as backrow options. Perhaps Morgan would have rather used that cash for a top class hooker, or tackle-busting prop.'"
Mason has an off load game, Morgan delights in coaching this out of people.
Quoted as saying "It's a big ask, but I'm sure I can improve this defect in Willie's game."
Reference; Liam Watts. |
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Quote: pmh "Mason has an off load game, Morgan delights in coaching this out of people.
Quoted as saying "It's a big ask, but I'm sure I can improve this defect in Willie's game."
Reference; Liam Watts.'"
Watts was in the top three Super League Young Players of the Year last season with Sam Tomkins and Jonny Lomax. I apologise for jinxing him, nowt to do with Morgan:
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Quote: pmh "Mason has an off load game, Morgan delights in coaching this out of people.
Quoted as saying "It's a big ask, but I'm sure I can improve this defect in Willie's game."
Reference; Liam Watts.'"
Watts was in the top three Super League Young Players of the Year last season with Sam Tomkins and Jonny Lomax. I apologise for jinxing him, nowt to do with Morgan:
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I asked about this the other week, I remember watching Liam Watts last season he looked the dogs...great potential yet the kid has looked average the games I have seen him in this season...hope the kid gets last seasons form back.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Watts was in the top three Super League Young Players of the Year last season with Sam Tomkins and Jonny Lomax. I apologise for jinxing him, nowt to do with Morgan:
First you take over Hull RLFC, now you are able to negatively influence our players performances.
You power knows no bounds today.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "I asked about this the other week, I remember watching Liam Watts last season he looked the dogs...great potential yet the kid has looked average the games I have seen him in this season...hope the kid gets last seasons form back.'"
The thing with watts is he's a good mobile prop with a decent offload, pretty much in the mould of a young Vella, we seem to be trying to turn him into a fozzard type hard running head down prop which is what he'll never be.
Think this 'transition' has knocked his confidence massively. |
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "I asked about this the other week, I remember watching Liam Watts last season he looked the dogs...great potential yet the kid has looked average the games I have seen him in this season...hope the kid gets last seasons form back.'"
Dont quote me on this but if .....Kear is next years coach he'll cream over what he can do with a ball and encourage it. |
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Justin not going anywear according to his interview, he has two years left and contract and Watts back into contention after impressing him...............
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| Quote: gingerspice "Justin not going anywear according to his interview, he has two years left and contract and Watts back into contention after impressing him...............'"
That's what annoys me with Morgan at times - it seems to take him ages to be impressed with players that he already should be, whilst conversely he loves players who IMO don't contribute enough to the team, grrr....   |
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I have to say that the snippet of an interview I caught on Humberside with Justin talking about wanting positive outcomes with Vella and Galea's agent is really disappointing unless the positive outcome is, thanks for the memories but there's no contract extension lads.
We really need to be looking towards the next 3-5 years with our recruitment/retention.
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| Quote: Barnacle Bill "I have to say that the snippet of an interview I caught on Humberside with Justin talking about wanting positive outcomes with Vella and Galea's agent is really disappointing unless the positive outcome is, thanks for the memories but there's no contract extension lads.
We really need to be looking towards the next 3-5 years with our recruitment/retention.'"
well said lets hope when we come to the end of this season all will be made clear at the moment it is not we need some action and we need it now  |
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| Quote: Barnacle Bill "I have to say that the snippet of an interview I caught on Humberside with Justin talking about wanting positive outcomes with Vella and Galea's agent is really disappointing unless the positive outcome is, thanks for the memories but there's no contract extension lads.
We really need to be looking towards the next 3-5 years with our recruitment/retention.'"
With the lack of available British players losing Vella and Galea could hit you hard. |
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| Quote: Sheldon "With the lack of available British players losing Vella and Galea could hit you hard.'"
It will hit us harder if we re-sign a 33 year old prop on a six figure salary who cant consistantly play at the top level any more. |
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