you really are a silly person
(forum, look the word up,)

did hull get rid of raynor? did leeds get rid of bailey or saints getting rid of price? why should rovers get rid. hes recived his punishment and im damn sure he wont do it again i'd say he sould get the cooke treatment.

having read all these posts in here i agree with with some but disagree with alot more. i think the RFL and rovers should get tough with banning and fines, make an example of him because he has done wrong, forget raynor, cookie and whats gone on before, lets set a good example here and get the bad boys in line before they take the p@ss, lets take a leaf out of the NRLs book, bad boys there get punished big time... I know your all going to say hull fc fan being biased well im not, im a normal bloke whos witnessed and had to see the aftermath of my brothers head been stamped on and its not fair and its not nice... Lets just hope the RFL make a stand, grow some ba@ls and get tough for the future before all the other bad boys fall out of line...

not defending what he did, but i doubt very much you would be of the same opinion if it been a hull player! jog on lego sweede.

I think you'll find buster when raynors case was going on i wanted him out, dont like bad guys buster, whats all this jog on, are you danny dyer?

funny you should say that, er no! but i did see a tv prog last nite which he presented! as for raynors case, i did'nt bother posting as i was'nt all that concerned with the goings on at gateshead. not all red n whites are obsessed.

All people on here know is what has been reported in the press, the full version of events wasn't reported. Journalists are payed to write stories that sell papers, sometimes missing out events which have happened makes the stories more interesting to the reader and thus more papers are sold.

I'm not condoning what BC did but there were mitigating circumstances that lead to the events that have not been told to the public. Obviously the judge has heard these and I'm positive he remanded them in custody to show them what life is like on the other side and to make them realise how lucky they have been when he gave them their sentence. Ben will get his head down, pay his fine, do his CS and get back on with doing the one thing he loves most, playing rugby league, whether its with Hull KR or Normanton Knights Ben loves the game and this will make him realise how lucky he is to be able to still play the game. Bens a very strong character and Im sure he'll come through this and it will mature him as both a player and a person.

So you will be writing to FC about them sacking their naughty boy in the morning I presume(sp)??
You will also never cheer another Raynor try I guess?
I do hope so as we dont want you to have double standards do we.
For me its a case of FCand Rovers as clubs have made their choice on this matter (Rovers must have a plan of action I assume) do I like the fact that convicted cons are plying their trade at clubs in this city.
Not really but that decision has been made (As I mentioned above) and thats pretty much it.

I see your point but IMO the sustained nature of the attack and the fact they went back for another go negates any claim it was a heat of the moment incident and elevates the seriousness of the crime above the (still unforgivable) ones of Raynor and Cooke. The defence said something about "25 seconds of insanity". When you're getting your head kicked in, that's quite a long time.

What is your opinion of Gareth Raynor then and Leon Price ?

I cannot condone the actions of Ben but what i can say and is based on my own past expierences is, that by punishing him further and dismissing him from rovers would not put any of the wrongs to right or serve any further purpose imo.
i wasn.t a thug in my younger days but i did get into one or two situations of which i still regret and wish i hadn't to this
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He carried out an assult almost two years ago and no doubt one day he will look back and wish he also could turn back the clock, its called growing up and been responsible for your actions.
To be fair to him he has conducted himself a lot better over the last year or so and hopefuly this lesson will make him realise he's in a privileged position and put him on the right path.
If he was expelled from rovers,or from rugby league in general, would that make him a better person?, no of course it would not, if anything it could even have the opposite effect.
After reading some of the posts on here, i suspect that there are certain people who just want blood because of who he is and who he plays for, not for what he did.

This subject has provoked a wide spectrum of opinion in my own mind let alone this thread, but in terms of a player's behaviour, I've never been so rattled in all my my years as Hull Kingston Rovers supporter...