And there was knack all wrong with Eden its just that Hall deserves his chance at fullback.

Nick Pinkney's opinion was interesting. He said the penalties Rovers concede are by and large correctly given (in the context that the ref made no difference to the result today) but they result from Rovers being "completely out of control" in defensive sets, resulting in panicky poorly executed tackles and other infringements.

Is Chris Chester the defensive coach? i'm not sure. But as Sandy gets it with both barrels after most the defeats this year, Chris Chester as defensive coach (if that's what he is) should be taking some of the criticism also. Just what on earth does he do?

This score next week will not be down to a faulty scoreboard.

His future I believe was sorted weeks ago when he was allowed to moan to the media about the easter games,if he was too be given an extension then he would have been talked too and told not to make himself look silly with daft comments.

He is gone end of season and the board and Craig know it in my opinion.

Heard he's been told he can start looking elsewhere with no guarantees available yet - new owner might want someone else. McNamara rumour still strong too. Maureen will love that one.

Pinkney hit the nail on the head. I suspect that Sandercock's voice is that monotonous, that the team fall asleep during the defensive structure lectures.

And he was bob on, although I must add the caveat that you could give a penalty at pretty much every tackle and play the ball in rugby league if you wanted to.

In November 2011, Sandercock identified that Rovers defensive patterns were one of our biggest deficiencies, this problem has been added to by him coaching the team to give away endless penalties that give up territory and possession.

First time I've said it, but enough is enough, Sandercock is not getting the best out of this group of players and needs to go.

Welcome Miss Terrorist, we've been expecting you for some time. We are an exclusive club, oft refered to as the [i"coach out brigade"[/i

Lets plot...

Not wishing to disagree with anything said here but I would like to offer some credit to Castleford who I thought were tremendous today.

Rovers second half tries which came from a Rovers kick off which Cas didn't collect and a Caro interception gave the scoreline a false look of an even contest.

Rovers were in many respects architects of their own downfall but credit where it is due, well played Castleford. Far too good for us on the day.

Painful to watch. Don't think can face another away game under the current regime.

Cas were gash. A half decent side would have put 60+ on us today with the volume of possession they had.