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| Quote: Dave K. "I know you are Craig's biggest fan (and maybe even his dad), but the last paragraph is rubbish, some fans I agree do blame him for everything, I quite like him, when he came onto the scene he looked like the real deal and old type centre with great feet, pace and good hands, unfortunateley in 3 seasons and over 70 games he just hasn't done it, far too mnay errors in attack and defence.
I still stand by the point that Hull's defence was better than Rovers last year (hull took some good beating also, Wigan x2 and Leeds), Rovers attack is far better than Hull's, nobofy cab argue with that and maybe Hall will flourish in a more attacking team. I hope when you play us next season you have Welham and Hall in the centres.'"
Agreed. But how many times in those 70+ games has he played in his best position?? He is a left sided player and his best position is left centre yet he has very rarely played there. Yeaman is often all at sea in defensively and this despite having played in the same position for over 6 years, yet receives little of no criticism for it. How different would his career have been had he been asked to play in 3 or 4 different positions at a crucial time in his development??
Also i would like to see Rovers have Welham and Hall in the centres when they play Hull. Both pplayers have pace and both know how to put their wingers away.  |
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| Quote: rover49 "Two seasons ago I would have paid him to leave, but he has really improved in his defence work and puts in some massive hits when defending his line. He isn't as quick as Hall, but I think his brain is quicker and he reads the game around our kick attack moves very well. You may relish Hall being our centre, but Welhams defence is now very good, which is maybe what Morgan is aiming to do with Hall, if he can get him defending like Welham does, he will be an asset to us with his pace and attacking skills.
I am still to be convinced about Hall, but he is here now and I am confident he will be receiving a far higher standard of coaching and conditioning at Rovers, so if he cannot do it here, he won't do it anywhere.'" Yeah, just like all the other players who have crossed the river and become world class under Morgan.  |
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| Quote: PAUL M "You assume all Hall's errors are in defence, he makes more with ball in hand tbh. The amount of times he just switches off and drops an easy ball and throws a silly pass or takes the wrong option is numerous.
What Hall needs to do is to start taking some responsibility and start delivering, he might do that at Rover and he might not.'"
Yet Yeaman made twice as many errors last season. |
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Agreed. But how many times in those 70+ games has he played in his best position?? He is a left sided player and his best position is left centre yet he has very rarely played there. Yeaman is often all at sea in defensively and this despite having played in the same position for over 6 years, yet receives little of no criticism for it. How different would his career have been had he been asked to play in 3 or 4 different positions at a crucial time in his development??
Also i would like to see Rovers have Welham and Hall in the centres when they play Hull. Both pplayers have pace and both know how to put their wingers away. ![]()
I take your point about positions, but as Paul M has said, wherever he plays he is making the same errors with ball in hand.
Yeaman has recieved plenty of critism from Hull fans the last 3 years, you haven't read our board if you think otherwise, Yeaman is a different type of player, but has been much better in attack and defence than Hall in the last few years.
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Yet Yeaman made twice as many errors last season.'"
If you are going to use stats, use them properly.
He has made twice as many errors but had the ball 3 times more tha Hall.
So who makes the most errors per carries? |
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| Quote: Dave K. "If you are going to use stats, use them properly.
He has made twice as many errors but had the ball 3 times more tha Hall.
So who makes the most errors per carries?'"
An error is an error irrespective of carries.
I would however expect better of a seasoned 'International' over a rookie constantly played out of position. But hey ho  |
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| Quote: Dave K. "I take your point about positions, but as Paul M has said, wherever he plays he is making the same errors with ball in hand.
Yeaman has recieved plenty of critism from Hull fans the last 3 years, you haven't read our board if you think otherwise, Yeaman is a different type of player, but has been much better in attack and defence than Hall in the last few years.'"
I agree that Yeaman and Hall are different types of player and Yeaman suits Hull's rather conservative attacking style better than Craig, which makes his mistake ratio rather a concern inho.
So maybe this move will be suitable for all parties. |
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Welcome to Hull KR CH, best of luck.
Ratu has been on the fringes as it is - I wonder if it'd be best for HKR and player if he could find another club. It is likely to cost the HKR a few quid, but there is no point being 5th choice centre at this stage of his career and we can only have 17 non-club trained players in the top 25 earners.
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| Quote: fcimp "Yeah, just like all the other players who have crossed the river and become world class under Morgan. ![]()
Who mentioned anything about being world class, all I expect is for him to become better under superior coaching than he was at Hull, if he can improve his defence to a level similar to Welham, he will be a much better all round player, he has the assets in attack, he just needs to improve in defence and the balls he is prone to dropping (Cockayne was a nightmare with this, but now rarely drops a high ball since his technique was improved by the afore mentioned superior coaching).
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "Yet Yeaman made twice as many errors last season.'"
Get the stats and context and then we can talk.
Hall has the ability but not sure he has the confidence or heart to fulfill it. |
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| Quote: PAUL M "Get the stats and context and then we can talk.
Hall has the ability but not sure he has the confidence or heart to fulfill it.'"
My only criticism of Craig is he tends to be a little over confident if anything.
Other than Briscoe though, Hally is the only back i would want in my team from Hulls current squad. |
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| Quote: Gordon Gekko "My only criticism of Craig is he tends to be a little over confident if anything.
Other than Briscoe though, Hally is the only back i would want in my team from Hulls current squad.'"
One mistake and his chin hits the deck usually. |
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I thought Hall was around 25/26 mark, 22 though! Seems like he's been around for about 7-8 years!
Could this spell the end of another centre in Rovers' ranks, Ratu?
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