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| Quote Bandito="Bandito"Except Leuluai and Deacon who can both defend more than their weight.
Danny Brough can defend, so can Horne. Some are weak, most of them are spots in game plans due to their size, but 3 or 4 in SL seem to love defending.
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And kick pity about the rest of his game, I didnt say that halfbacks cant defend just that most teams put them out wide in the defensive line to protect them.
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| Quote hullkr14="hullkr14"why has the debate turned into how well a half back can defend?
When you look at the great half backs over the years the only thing that sticks in the mind is how good in attack they are. The half backs who can run well with the ball stand out most - look at Rob Burrow and Danny McGuire at Leeds, both great runners of the ball and that's why they've held the half back spots at Leeds for so long. Millward was a great runner of the ball, as is Lockyer. Some half backs are tougher than others but they don't become greats of the game for their defence.
It's just a back handed swipe at Dobson to say his defence isn't very good, probably because you can't find any real weaknesses in his game.
A poor attempt
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He is superman, best Scrum half in the world.
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| Quote hullkr14="hullkr14"why has the debate turned into how well a half back can defend?
When you look at the great half backs over the years the only thing that sticks in the mind is how good in attack they are. The half backs who can run well with the ball stand out most - look at Rob Burrow and Danny McGuire at Leeds, both great runners of the ball and that's why they've held the half back spots at Leeds for so long. Millward was a great runner of the ball, as is Lockyer. Some half backs are tougher than others but they don't become greats of the game for their defence.
It's just a back handed swipe at Dobson to say his defence isn't very good, probably because you can't find any real weaknesses in his game.
Aye it was cock on against Sts at there place.....how many trys came down Dobson and Steeles side?
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| Quote hullkr14="hullkr14"why has the debate turned into how well a half back can defend?
When you look at the great half backs over the years the only thing that sticks in the mind is how good in attack they are. The half backs who can run well with the ball stand out most - look at Rob Burrow and Danny McGuire at Leeds, both great runners of the ball and that's why they've held the half back spots at Leeds for so long. Millward was a great runner of the ball, as is Lockyer. Some half backs are tougher than others but they don't become greats of the game for their defence.
It's just a back handed swipe at Dobson to say his defence isn't very good, probably because you can't find any real weaknesses in his game.
A poor attempt
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Most coaches in SL found a big weakness, his defence.
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| Quote fc baldy="fc baldy"'"
Not to mention Warrington. 
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| Quote The Kings of Hull="The Kings of Hull"Not to mention Warrington.
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Yes.
He kicked a touch line conversion in the last few seconds to win the game IIRC.......and he didn't do to badly in both kicking and playing respect in his last S.L. game of the season either 
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| Quote Enlightened="Enlightened"Yes.
He kicked a touch line conversion in the last few seconds to win the game IIRC.......and he didn't do to badly in both kicking and playing respect in his last S.L. game of the season either :D'"
Still living in the past 
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| After 8 pages Hullkr14 still hasn't stated how he is better than the other ten people or so in front of him.
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| Quote Ewwenorfolk="Ewwenorfolk"After 8 pages Hullkr14 still hasn't stated how he is better than the other ten people or so in front of him.'"
If you'd understood any of my posts you'd know that I'm not saying he has been better, I am predicting that he is going to be. It obviously winds you up that he is already better than Deacon.
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| Quote hullkr14="hullkr14"If you'd understood any of my posts you'd know that I'm not saying he has been better, I am predicting that he is going to be. It obviously winds you up that he is already better than Deacon.'"
How the feck can you say that?
Ok, I predict Netto is going to be better than Tesco this year. No explaination, no facts, just what I think.
It makes for interesting threads when everyone just blindly says things about players who happen to play for their club.
What next, thread stating Watts will be the best Prop in Super League this season? 
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| Quote Bandito="Bandito"
What next, thread stating Watts will be the best Prop in Super League this season?
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No chance, it will be Menzies. Look at all the development time and effort invested in him and the first team opportunities he enjoyed as one of your 5 homegrown players. Oh, hang on... 
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| Quote hullkr14="hullkr14"Yes it does - thanks
And no if Dobson played for Cas I wouldn't suggest it at all. I don't care about Cas so why would I? I only care about Rovers. And these forums are about discussion, which is what this is. Dobson's best feature is his kicking game but it is his try scoring and running of the ball that I am looking forward to.
Rovers have kept a fairly stable squad with mainly like for like replacements. As yet in super league Rovers have never been in good form, they've only had good games.
I am predicting that in 2009 rovers will hit form at some point and go on a decent winning streak - I think Dobson will be at the hub of that because from what I've seen of him he's brilliant and can only get better.
Dobson will be the best scrum half in the league next year and Sean Long will be average.'"
I have explained already why I think Dobson will be the stand out half back next year, it's a simple theory - I believe he is more talented than the other scrum halves in the league. You disagree with me, I know.
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