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30596_1286642206.jpg If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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| Quote: Sheldon "What year was this? After Joe Fraziers kids got bullied at school and his family received deaths threats?
Or are you counting the newspaper apology?
Frazier gave Ali money and supported him when he was banned. Ali "repaid" him like this? Bs.'"
Chief, i'm not going to argue with you, I don't think it's the right time.
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30596_1286642206.jpg If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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| Quote: fun time frankie "The Liston fight was a shame because it should have been one of the greats but because of the mob it didn't go that way he was a great character and self publicist I just don't think he was the greatest boxer only my opinion of course'"
I agree with you, although in boxing i think it's impossible to compare and contrast different eras and weights.
If i had to, from the many, many days i've spent watching old footage, i'd go Ray Robinson, utterly beautiful to watch.
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| Quote: Sheldon "Personnel racism, he was racist himself.'"
I never said personal pal.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
Regards,
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| Quote: Sandro II Terrorista "Chief, i'm not going to argue with you, I don't think it's the right time.'"
I don't think his family are reading this.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
Regards,
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "I never said personal pal.'"
I know, I did. He fought against racism for people of his colour. But was racist against "darker" black people.
It's strange how racist, anti Islam foke are happy to forget they stance if people can kick a ball, punch someone or sing.
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7355.jpg Roger Millward MBE 1947 - 2016:7355.jpg |
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| A contradiction, an inspiration, a man of courage and conviction, a man with human frailties and foibles, a man of huge charisma and above all.....
The Greatest....
RIP
"Rumble, young man...rumble!"
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30596_1286642206.jpg If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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| Quote: Sheldon "I know, I did. He fought against racism for people of his colour. But was racist against "darker" black people.
It's strange how racist, anti Islam foke are happy to forget they stance if people can kick a ball, punch someone or sing.'"
OK, as you're talking about people being anti Islam, I'm assuming you're not talking about Ali, so who are you speaking about here?
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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result: |
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| Quote: Sandro II Terrorista "I agree with you, although in boxing i think it's impossible to compare and contrast different eras and weights.
If i had to, from the many, many days i've spent watching old footage, i'd go Ray Robinson, utterly beautiful to watch.'"
Sugar Ray Robinson was probably the greatest fighter of all time a class above anyone else
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| Have a bit of respect the blokes just died.
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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result: |
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| Quote: hull2524 "Have a bit of respect the blokes just died.'"
What your not allowed to have an opinion because someone died everyone has different views id rather people spoke there true feelings than be phoney which usually happens when somebody dies
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| Quote: Keith_Lard "Bottled it when it came to serving his country'"
'No Vietcong ever called me a n#gger'. A reasonable reason to not go slaughtering people who he had no argument with FOR people who would happily lynch him.
As for Sheldon's idea that he was racist. Really. A very simple interpretation of a very complicated world of American race politics in which he grew up.
He helped and gave to people of all races. A remarkable man.
Liston got destroyed in their first fight. Even tried to blind Ali to slow him after that he threw it in because he knew it was only ending one way. Like Tyson biting Holyfield to avoid a second beating Liston chucked it again as he was getting another beating in the return. 'The job's threw lots of fights which you'd never know about until after. Ali destroyed Liston's mind then backed it up in the ring. Liston was a mess after 2 rounds.
Best boxer. Him, Ray Robinson, Jack Johnson. Unforgivable Blackness is a remarkable read of Johnson's life. Did it all 40 years before Ali.
World was a better place with Ali in it.
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67329_1392756525.jpg Well you may throw your rock and hide your hand
Workin' in the dark against your fellow man
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| War is murder to make the rich richer and keep the ants suppressed !!!
Looked like a great boxer from footage I've seen . imo tyson when his head was on straight would have cleaned him out , but I know boxing has changed over the years so know one will ever know.
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| just old school as far as people passing away, I like to respect the old fashion values, am not saying he was perfect and I disagreed with a lot he said, but there we go,
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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result: |
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| Quote: Burtons Forearm "'No Vietcong ever called me a n#gger'. A reasonable reason to not go slaughtering people who he had no argument with FOR people who would happily lynch him.
As for Sheldon's idea that he was racist. Really. A very simple interpretation of a very complicated world of American race politics in which he grew up.
He helped and gave to people of all races. A remarkable man.
Liston got destroyed in their first fight. Even tried to blind Ali to slow him after that he threw it in because he knew it was only ending one way. Like Tyson biting Holyfield to avoid a second beating Liston chucked it again as he was getting another beating in the return. 'The job's threw lots of fights which you'd never know about until after. Ali destroyed Liston's mind then backed it up in the ring. Liston was a mess after 2 rounds.
Best boxer. Him, Ray Robinson, Jack Johnson. Unforgivable Blackness is a remarkable read of Johnson's life. Did it all 40 years before Ali.
World was a better place with Ali in it.'"
Fighters ruin there reputation by taking fights they never should Ali should have never fought Holmes Holmes should never have fought Tyson and Danny Williams didn't deserve to be in the same ring as Tyson never mind beating him IMO Tyson at his peak would have destroyed anybody
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| Interesting argument about who was the best. We shall never know . But wouldn't it have been good to see Ali and Tyson in the ring at the height of there powers.Imo Ali had to much speed for all the heavyweight challenges and would have seen.tyson off but I wouldn't have put my house on it.
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