Agree about Tuimavave he really is starting to find some form and was class for us in the second-half though his dodgy ball carry and his dissent in the first half was not clever at all.

Mika's knock-on wasn't too bright but I thought Carlile seemed in two minds at the play the ball as if he was going to try something else and then passed to Mika when had he passed without the hesitation, there would have been no problem.

7 penalties in 24mins; not sure a coach can do anything about that.

Still had a cracking curry in Bradford after the game

Well sandys had over a year and let's be honest, the defence has improved by 0% and I think discipline is getting worse! Don't get me wrong though I do admire his attacking structures etc, hence the reason I thought at assistant

We were told by our Newcastle correspondent that Mika was and is lazy, it's all well and good banging people about with a couple of Hollywood hits every game, but it doesn't stand up so well when you're miles off at marker or just clear missing one on ones.

Which reminds me, Welham flying out of the line (which I am a supporter of at times) on Kearney whilst within our own twenty. The kid isn't a rookie any more, and that read was terrible, particularly as he didn't even land a little finger on Kearney's shirt.

Need to stop this now, I only ever post after a game when we've lost!

Im not saying we should start a Sandy fan club, and I agree our defence is terrible. Its just not a feasible solution, its CS or someone else simple as. His job must be in the balance knowing his contract talks are coming up soon. Win against Cas and FC and people will start believing we have turned the corner. Lose them both and I think Hudge might act.

I've always thought it should be noble, he got crusaders into the play offs in his latest job and that took some doing!! But I'd love to see sandercock do good but if we lose these next 2, he's a dead man walking. Does anyone know anything about Dobbo? Heard he's out of the derby which will definately turn things around with regards to the next 2 games!

Who from, drama queen Philb? We know the "timely boost" drill by now, same every year. He'll play.

Yes, by Philb. I taught him well.

Equally if we win 'em both, we'd have won 5 from and 7, one of them a derby and it'll all seem moderately rosy. There's no doubt that even making allowances for the fact that nobody is pretending this a team of worldbeaters, we're a couple of points down on where I'd hoped to be, but it hasn't been catastrophic.

Watching the Salford game was traumatic, but the team showed some resilience to recover. Today was a setback and I doubt it'll be the last, but as long we see some progress too, even if it is uneven and patchy (and it is), I think we're better sticking with it. It was never meant to be a quick fix.

ive been banging on for 3 seasons about welham jumping out of the line leaving his winger exposed ans he is still doing it and as for mika lets just get rid lazy makes the same errors every game we wont miss his 2 5minute stints

Welham's defence out wide was laughable at times, a bit like Lovegroves down the middle, like you say experienced players who should be standing up and leading.

Burns created and did nothing to add to the performace along with Paterson, all in all our big name players failed to produce.

Of course he can. He can train them to improve line speed and tidy up the ruck, that cuts out penalties. He can install discipline so we don't dissent. He can do all this and more, but he won't.

So do you think Sandercock has changed his approach in how he trains them in this aspect since the Warrington game?

It was a disapointing result & as always I wait a day before comenting on the game. 1st point give Bradford credit for a good effort. Some of our players had an off day & got what they deserved but they are no worse than a lot of other sides. I have seen 5 games this weekend & off those two other teams Canberra & South Sydney were equaly as bad as Rovers unforced errors & high penalty counts against, Canberra got stuffed Souths scraped a win. I just think it is the nature of the modern game. I am not to worried I would stick with Sandercock let him do what he was brought in to do, that is put in place structures that will last & provide local players comming through our youth structure. We should take of our red tinted glasses & look at the rest of the game we are not that much diferent to a lot of other clubs.