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Quote: Burtons Forearm "Hoping the bigot pulls off 30 try saving tackles wont win it either.
Dixon's kick returns will massively improve our field position each set. He wins lots of penalties.
Most of super league want him in their side. Can't say the same of the bigot. He's had his moments this year but I'm afraid running around like a lunatic doesn't cut it for me. Lost patience with him years ago when we were in front at Cas in their 20. He gave away 3 pens and they scored. He's matured a bit and is a better player for it.
Got the mental age of a three year old now.'"

Seems like your disliking of BC is clouding your judgement on Dixon he isn't really that good either

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Quote: Oafy "Seems like your disliking of BC is clouding your judgement on Dixon he isn't really that good either'"

Somebody's judgement is clouded.
Regardless of his bigotry he's a liability on the pitch and an average player full of errors. He can only dream of doing things Dixon can. When has the bigot been in the top ten try scorers....ever? Dixon makes defenders look foolish.
Don't be fooled by tub thumpers who run about hitting people. Apparent effort can hide a lack of ability.

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Quote: Kingston Rovers "Can't see CC picking this side but Imo it would have a decent chance, though hopefully the team he does pick can pull off a narrow win.

Dixon
Mantellato
Welham
Horne
Sio
Chisholm
Kelly
Walker
Boudebza
Allgood
Blair
Puletua
McCarthy

Green
Tilse
Lunt
Larroyer/Donaldson?


Salter is a trier but he hasn't much go forward. Defensively good but against Moon I'm not sure.
Horne can tackle and can break the line and get Sio away as he did Dixon v Leigh.
Puletua in the second row, which he prefers, would help to take down the likes of Peacock, Luleai, Cutherbertson and Garbutt and slow them down a bit and would give us more go forward out wide with Larroyer/Donaldson spelling him 20 mins at a time. Maybe vulnerable with their quick centres I admit though. Having 5 props will make it interesting at least.
Chisholm hasn't been spectacular but has shown glimpses of what he can do, he has speed and is an out an out half back which Blair isn't who's much better in the 2nd row.
Chisholm could support Kelly so he's not trying to do it all himself, Leeds will target him and try and tire him out and Blair hasn't the pace to step in and be the type of player Kelly is.
Donaldson maybe instead of Larroyer who lifts the team when he comes on, he's our new Cockayne in my eyes, Cockaynes not the player he was but still decent for cover. 19th man for me.
A decent go forward side might get us on the front foot more often than not and give the backs some space and time.
Anyway that's wasted half hour of my time, Chester will no doubt pick Cockayne and Salter. And not Boudebza, Green or Chisholm.'"



Obviously this is your opinion and you're entitled to it but IMO if Chester was to pick this team we may as well not bother getting on the bus this morning.
Horne is okay cover in the centres in a worst case scenario but he would get skinned all day long by Moon or Watkins. Same with Puletua, nowhere near the pace to deal with defending in that position. Imagine Puletua and Horne lining up next to each other in the line with Hardaker/Burrow/McGuire/Moon etc getting out from dummy half at them on the back of a quick PTB. We would be knackered.

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Quote: Burtons Forearm "Somebody's judgement is clouded.
Regardless of his bigotry he's a liability on the pitch and an average player full of errors. He can only dream of doing things Dixon can. When has the bigot been in the top ten try scorers....ever? Dixon makes defenders look foolish.
Don't be fooled by tub thumpers who run about hitting people. Apparent effort can hide a lack of ability.'"


Other than the slightly embarrassing way that you insist on addressing him as 'the bigot', you're ignoring the impact that someone can have purely by firing up those around them. Cockayne gives the team a lift with the way he plays. IMO he isn't good enough to play in the 17 but disliking him is clouding your judgement about the gulf between him and Dixon, it's really not that great.
Yes Dixon terrifies defenders when he gets them squared up and he can be a match winner. Let's not lose sight of reality though, he's not Jaryd Hayne.

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Quote: EL CAMO "Other than the slightly embarrassing way that you insist on addressing him as 'the bigot', you're ignoring the impact that someone can have purely by firing up those around them. Cockayne gives the team a lift with the way he plays. IMO he isn't good enough to play in the 17 but disliking him is clouding your judgement about the gulf between him and Dixon, it's really not that great.
Yes Dixon terrifies defenders when he gets them squared up and he can be a match winner. Let's not lose sight of reality though, he's not Jaryd Hayne.'"

Embarrassing calling him a bigot. He's not one then?
Often the people around him who he winds up are the opposition.
For how to inspire and fire people up see Campese not that oaf.
For embarrassing do you remember his Facebook postings. Being called what he is is not embarrassing. Embarrassing is chanting 'Charlie' after his every touch particularly after his return from..........a sacking.
He should be embarrassed looking Kelly Sio Dixon Stanley in the eye each time he meets them as well as all our other Aussie immigrants.

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Quote: Burtons Forearm "Embarrassing calling him a bigot. He's not one then?
Often the people around him who he winds up are the opposition.
For how to inspire and fire people up see Campese not that oaf.
For embarrassing do you remember his Facebook postings. Being called what he is is not embarrassing. Embarrassing is chanting 'Charlie' after his every touch particularly after his return from..........a sacking.
He should be embarrassed looking Kelly Sio Dixon Stanley in the eye each time he meets them as well as all our other Aussie immigrants.'"



Wind your neck in. We are aware of your feelings about BC. Some of us are prepared to give someone a second chance and not cloud our judgement over personal feelings towards a player.

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Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "Wind your neck in. We are aware of your feelings about BC. Some of us are prepared to give someone a second chance and not cloud our judgement over personal feelings towards a player.'"

Wind my neck in.
I responded to a post calling it embarrassing calling him a bigot. I pointed out he is and on the scale of embarrassing things I think his behaviour shouldn't be forgot.
For the record he's on his fourth chance if we include assault, fleeing the police from an abandoned car...and his racially abusive postings. These are the things we know about of course.
Amazing some people's memories.......and morals.
I stand by my judgement of him as a PLAYER bang average and often a liability. Dixon is on another level as a player and I think Chester does too hence his spot in the semi final.

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Yes as a grown man constantly referring to him as 'the bigot' is rather embarrassing. It's nothing other than childish namecalling of someone who you don't like. For the record I don't actually remember what his facebook postings said so I won't comment on whether or not I think he's a bigot. And I've agreed that Dixon is better but he is not as much better as you've convinced yourself of.

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19 Man Squad for Saturday

Dixon
Cockayne
Mantellato
Sio
Blair
Kelly
Walker
Larroyer
Horne
McCarthy
Allgood
Donaldson
Salter
Welham
Tilse
Puletua
Boudebza
Lunt
Green

No Chisholm or Marsh. Kelly plays.

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Quote: EL CAMO "Yes as a grown man constantly referring to him as 'the bigot' is rather embarrassing. It's nothing other than childish namecalling of someone who you don't like. For the record I don't actually remember what his facebook postings said so I won't comment on whether or not I think he's a bigot. And I've agreed that Dixon is better but he is not as much better as you've convinced yourself of.'"

We have a very different understanding of the word embarrassing then.
You should read his postings for what he was arrested for and then we can discuss this further.
It's cup final week. I'm sh#ting it more than the goose after a bowl of fruit and a cask of whiskey but even then I can't let the sometimes blinkered and sometime those of the same view support of this oaf pass.
I'm not suggesting you are either of these and you clearly aren't but there are plenty who share his views hence our recent embarrassing edl flag bearers.

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Quote: EL CAMO "19 Man Squad for Saturday

Dixon
Cockayne
Mantellato
Sio
Blair
Kelly
Walker
Larroyer
Horne
McCarthy
Allgood
Donaldson
Salter
Welham
Tilse
Puletua
Boudebza
Lunt
Green

No Chisholm or Marsh. Kelly plays.'"

Here's hoping though they can make late changes.
Think he'll drop Green and ........co#khead ( there that's embarrassing)
Green or Donaldson for the last forward spot. He rested Donaldson last week?
We have to live with them for the first 20. They blew giants and saints away in the first 20. If we're with them after that I fancy our chances as the pressure will be on them. That said they've been there etc. However their record at Wembley is poor so let's hope.

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Quote: Burtons Forearm "Here's hoping though they can make late changes.
Think he'll drop Green and ........co#khead ( there that's embarrassing)
Green or Donaldson for the last forward spot. He rested Donaldson last week?
We have to live with them for the first 20. They blew giants and saints away in the first 20. If we're with them after that I fancy our chances as the pressure will be on them. That said they've been there etc. However their record at Wembley is poor so let's hope.'"



I think Donaldson will get the nod because of the edge he brings with versatility. If we were to lose an outside back then didnt have Donaldson on the bench we'd be in serious trouble.

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Quote: Burtons Forearm "Here's hoping though they can make late changes.
Think he'll drop Green and ........co#khead ( there that's embarrassing)
Green or Donaldson for the last forward spot. He rested Donaldson last week?
We have to live with them for the first 20. They blew giants and saints away in the first 20. If we're with them after that I fancy our chances as the pressure will be on them. That said they've been there etc. However their record at Wembley is poor so let's hope.'"


I agree with what you say regarding having to live with them for the first 20 minutes and not get blown away during that period like so many have before, Rovers have to get into their faces from the very start and attempt to knock Leeds off their stride.
I've noticed in previous games with Leeds that if things don't go their way they do tend to become frustrated and that's when errors might start to creep in.
I know people have quietly expected that Kelly would play but I'm now almost certain he will after hearing the guy with the microphone light-heartedly say to the people wanting Albert Kelly's autograph......."let him get on the coach, you want him to be ready for the game don't you," was that a bit of of Freudian Slip by the man with the microphone,? also his body language was not that of a man who wasn't ready to play at Wembley.
TC said that his recovery progress with his Knee was coming along fine which would suggest he will be ready for the beginning of the new season.

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whatever the 17 will be i hope they give their all and we'll see what happens

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Not a bad looking squad & the bulk of that squad put 30 pionts on Leeds in round one & not many sides have done that to the rhinos (OK they put 40 on us when they woke up but hey I look at the posative side).

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