How did the pitch hold up during the match? Just wondering due to the comments earlier in the thread about drainage issues due to the north stand.

Not a fan of forwards playing in the backs but would maybe look at playing lorroyer there. Certainly play Salter in the other berth. How old is welham, 26? If he hasn't learned how to tackle now he never will.

Rhinos 14th successive opening day win...not good 1st round opponents.
It was all ok for 50 mins if a bit rusty. Pity Charlie dropped that scoring pass early on. Worrying the way the energy levels & line speed suddenly fizzled though.
Travis was a gamble that didn't pay, way off the pace & mucked up one or two plays. Welham made some bad calls but also got exposed a lot. Compressed defence relies on line speed.
Disappointed but we'll get better.

Yeah, you were great 2 years ago

Lol. In 2013 we sacked our coach, got nilled at Wembley and were on the wrong end of the worst ever playoff defeat. But we still had a better season than Leeds.

Tbf Leeds backs are awesome, but there are a few plodders in that pack. Keep Peacock fit and they will go okay, but I would expect to do a job on them at home.

No you didn't.

We won as many trophies as you but got to more finals

I still think sandy is your weakest link. He's proven in the last 2 years that he isn't very good and I see nothing to suggest he's improved since then. You'll flatter to deceive this season (as will Hull).

What would be the minimum you'd expect for this season to be deemed a success?

I am once again finding myself in agreement regarding our weakness, he has his own team now so no more excuses.

Minimum expectation is an improvement on last year.

What did you win for getting to Wembley? Haven't seen no trophy paraded around?

We finished runners-up in a final too, but at least we scored against Melbourne Storm.

I got wet at wembley, thanks for asking. Any final you play at your home ground isn't a real final

28 points would be a vindication, just about, for CS, IMO. Much less than that, and options have to be considered. It's still early days and as usual I'm more upbeat on the evening of a defeat than most because I haven't had to sit through it with visual yet. So I'm concerned rather than alarmed.

He's done okay under the circumstances, so far. IMO. To go beyond 3 years you need to build a bit of momentum - be better than just okay, or show very clear signs that it is just around the corner.


Jake, don't be chucking away our floodlit trophy wins! We've neither of us won enough to be chucking honours in the bin.

Trophies won at home pre superleague count as real ones

With the pressure on Sandercock, from the chairman and Mike Smith suggesting 6th is acheavable, then I'm sure anything less than that will be frowned upon this year. As some posters have put, it's his team now, and he is spending up to the cap, Hudge will not expect anything less this year. Maybe a good cup run, with a favourable draw for a change.

Damn I wish Leeds could have your wet coat in their trophy cabinet instead of at Hull.......proper jealous.