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Quote: Banger "It should be every players job. When I think about the best SH's I've seen, they all happen to have a good defensive game; Johns, Sterling, Gregory, Stuart, etc, etc.'"


That's four players over the last 35 years so.

The game has changed a lot over that period - the 10m rule being a fundamental one - prior to that intoduction, the SH often played a sweeper role in defence.

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Quote: Captain Dave "That's four players over the last 35 years so.'"


'etc' - I put it twice for the slower members, I'll add an extra one just for you next time Dave.
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Quote: Dave K. "Most scrum halfs in Sl dfend out wide, defensing isnt really there job.

Dobson was involved in everything, and set up most of Rovers trys that day, Cooke didnt do anything of note all game.

Lets be honest though there oppisition halfbacks that day where Washbrook and Lee.'"


Except Leuluai and Deacon who can both defend more than their weight.
Danny Brough can defend, so can Horne. Some are weak, most of them are spots in game plans due to their size, but 3 or 4 in SL seem to love defending. icon_lol.gif

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why has the debate turned into how well a half back can defend?

When you look at the great half backs over the years the only thing that sticks in the mind is how good in attack they are. The half backs who can run well with the ball stand out most - look at Rob Burrow and Danny McGuire at Leeds, both great runners of the ball and that's why they've held the half back spots at Leeds for so long. Millward was a great runner of the ball, as is Lockyer. Some half backs are tougher than others but they don't become greats of the game for their defence.

It's just a back handed swipe at Dobson to say his defence isn't very good, probably because you can't find any real weaknesses in his game.

A poor attempt icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Bandito "Except Leuluai and Deacon who can both defend more than their weight.
Danny Brough can defend, so can Horne. Some are weak, most of them are spots in game plans due to their size, but 3 or 4 in SL seem to love defending.
And kick pity about the rest of his game, I didnt say that halfbacks cant defend just that most teams put them out wide in the defensive line to protect them.

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Quote: hullkr14 "why has the debate turned into how well a half back can defend?

When you look at the great half backs over the years the only thing that sticks in the mind is how good in attack they are. The half backs who can run well with the ball stand out most - look at Rob Burrow and Danny McGuire at Leeds, both great runners of the ball and that's why they've held the half back spots at Leeds for so long. Millward was a great runner of the ball, as is Lockyer. Some half backs are tougher than others but they don't become greats of the game for their defence.

It's just a back handed swipe at Dobson to say his defence isn't very good, probably because you can't find any real weaknesses in his game.

A poor attempt
He is superman, best Scrum half in the world.

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Quote: hullkr14 "why has the debate turned into how well a half back can defend?

When you look at the great half backs over the years the only thing that sticks in the mind is how good in attack they are. The half backs who can run well with the ball stand out most - look at Rob Burrow and Danny McGuire at Leeds, both great runners of the ball and that's why they've held the half back spots at Leeds for so long. Millward was a great runner of the ball, as is Lockyer. Some half backs are tougher than others but they don't become greats of the game for their defence.

It's just a back handed swipe at Dobson to say his defence isn't very good, probably because you can't find any real weaknesses in his game.


Aye it was cock on against Sts at there place.....how many trys came down Dobson and Steeles side?

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Quote: hullkr14 "why has the debate turned into how well a half back can defend?

When you look at the great half backs over the years the only thing that sticks in the mind is how good in attack they are. The half backs who can run well with the ball stand out most - look at Rob Burrow and Danny McGuire at Leeds, both great runners of the ball and that's why they've held the half back spots at Leeds for so long. Millward was a great runner of the ball, as is Lockyer. Some half backs are tougher than others but they don't become greats of the game for their defence.

It's just a back handed swipe at Dobson to say his defence isn't very good, probably because you can't find any real weaknesses in his game.

A poor attempt Most coaches in SL found a big weakness, his defence.

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Not to mention Warrington. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: The Kings of Hull "Not to mention Warrington.

Yes.

He kicked a touch line conversion in the last few seconds to win the game IIRC.......and he didn't do to badly in both kicking and playing respect in his last S.L. game of the season either icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Enlightened "Yes.

He kicked a touch line conversion in the last few seconds to win the game IIRC.......and he didn't do to badly in both kicking and playing respect in his last S.L. game of the season either


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After 8 pages Hullkr14 still hasn't stated how he is better than the other ten people or so in front of him.

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Quote: Ewwenorfolk "After 8 pages Hullkr14 still hasn't stated how he is better than the other ten people or so in front of him.'"


If you'd understood any of my posts you'd know that I'm not saying he has been better, I am predicting that he is going to be. It obviously winds you up that he is already better than Deacon.

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Quote: hullkr14 "If you'd understood any of my posts you'd know that I'm not saying he has been better, I am predicting that he is going to be. It obviously winds you up that he is already better than Deacon.'"


How the feck can you say that?

Ok, I predict Netto is going to be better than Tesco this year. No explaination, no facts, just what I think.

It makes for interesting threads when everyone just blindly says things about players who happen to play for their club. icon_rolleyes.gif

What next, thread stating Watts will be the best Prop in Super League this season? icon_eek.gif

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