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| Finch knocked back our first offer but, as Justin gets what he wants, we will up the ante to get him...Finch is a good RL player no doubt and would be an excellent addition to the squad at the correct value but once again looks like Rovers will be paying international players wages for a non-international standard player..
Why not aim for the absolute best if we are going to pay top dollar anyway..???
Regardless of the outcome JM needs to refine his salary cap mangement technique and Rovers have far too many not quite top class overseas players...we would be better off with three world class players , two "something to prove" types and some younger, hungry English talent to complement them..
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| Quote: roversmad "To say you are something who hates us you certainly claim to know a lot about us'"
Or goes on the premise the more cr@p he posts that someone, somewhere may one day believe it.
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| Quote: Bertie "Or goes on the premise the more cr@p he posts that someone, somewhere may one day believe it.
We'll see
I posted my comment before justine came out in the press about it
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| Quote: Larry Billey "Regardless of the outcome JM needs to refine his salary cap mangement technique and Rovers have far too many not quite top class overseas players...we would be better off with three world class players , two "something to prove" types and some younger, hungry English talent to complement them..'"
This was a discussion I had recently with my rovers supporting mate. If we assume rovers are fairly near to the salary cap limit they do appear to be paying over the odds for the calibre of player they have.
Without getting into the form/injuries/worth of individuals, Hull have 3 former Oz and SOO regulars (not 1 cap wonders) and SL's best ever scrum half in their salary cap, other sides have similar numbers of "stars", whilst rovers don't really have any
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "This was a discussion I had recently with my rovers supporting mate. If we assume rovers are fairly near to the salary cap limit they do appear to be paying over the odds for the calibre of player they have.
Without getting into the form/injuries/worth of individuals, Hull have 3 former Oz and SOO regulars (not 1 cap wonders) and SL's best ever scrum half in their salary cap, other sides have similar numbers of "stars", whilst rovers don't really have any'"
Stars?
As opposed to being a big club and paying under the odds for over the hill players!!!
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "You mean the man who dragged a rubbish bradford side into 4th place? Looked very good in a poor bradford side. They paid way over the odds for him though as is being proven now when they have put all of their eggs in one basket and don't think they have won since he got injured. Still, when you're a small club like bradford you have to pay over the odds for players'"
As opposed to a club who pay players to sit at the other side of the world for months on end you mean !!
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "You see, you're exactly the kind of fool who I expected to come back with a response like that. The market value of an Australian and SOO regular is higher than that of a player who has never played SOO or international. Do you understand that? So assuming rovers are near the cap then they are paying more for lower quality players. It's a simple concept'"
I see your point regarding being near the cap but because we haven't had the time or money put into developing our own players means we sometimes have to pay slightly more for average players unlike the likes ofHull, Bradford, Saints, Wigan etc. Only now can we see that we have some players coming through capable of 1st team and you would probably have to look past our current 20's team to the under 18's for the next batch who should come through(if good enough) within the next twenty four months.
Not knowing what we are paying Newton, Galea, Clinton, Vella, Dobson I can't comment if they are over paid or not however they fit our needs.By the time they leave Rovers we are likely to have had a minimum service of 3 years from each player, if say we had paid the same money to Orford, Fitzgibbon, Menzies etc we would have been changing every couple of years which in our case, with the lack of home grown players wasn't feasable.Signing Newton, Galea etc allows us the time to develop our own players.
Not saying that Fitzgibbon isn't a good signing, he quite clearly is a good signing and has had a positive affect and is what was what Hull needed.
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| Quote: Big Dave HKR "I see your point regarding being near the cap but because we haven't had the time or money put into developing our own players means we sometimes have to pay slightly more for average players like Hull, Bradford, Saints, Wigan etc. Only now can we see that we have some players coming through capable of 1st team and you would probably have to look past our current 20's team to the under 18's for the next batch who should come through(if good enough) within the next twenty four months.
Not knowing what we are paying Newton, Galea, Clinton, Vella, Dobson I can't comment if they are over paid or not however they fit our needs.By the time they leave Rovers we are likely to have had a minimum service of 3 years from each player, if say we had paid the same money to Orford, Fitzgibbon, Menzies etc we would have been changing every couple of years which in our case, with the lack of home grown players wasn't feasable.Signing Newton, Galea etc allows us the time to develop our own players.
Not saying that Fitzgibbon isn't a good signing, he quite clearly is a good signing and has had a positive affect and is what was what Hull needed.'"
You have to be a Hull fan to be privvy to that kind of information
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "You see, you're exactly the kind of fool who I expected to come back with a response like that. The market value of an Australian and SOO regular is higher than that of a player who has never played SOO or international. Do you understand that? So assuming rovers are near the cap then they are paying more for lower quality players. It's a simple concept'"
Like I say, to those who don't know the game too well, its obviously quite all right to pay big money to crocks here for the pension as long as they have an impressive CV.
We might not have signed stars as big as Berrigan and Matt King, but where did their clubs finish last year compared to Rovers? Any idiot can see players should be valued on performance rather than rep honours from the past.
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| Quote: Big Dave HKR "I see your point regarding being near the cap but because we haven't had the time or money put into developing our own players means we sometimes have to pay slightly more for average players unlike the likes ofHull, Bradford, Saints, Wigan etc. Only now can we see that we have some players coming through capable of 1st team and you would probably have to look past our current 20's team to the under 18's for the next batch who should come through(if good enough) within the next twenty four months.
Not knowing what we are paying Newton, Galea, Clinton, Vella, Dobson I can't comment if they are over paid or not however they fit our needs.By the time they leave Rovers we are likely to have had a minimum service of 3 years from each player, if say we had paid the same money to Orford, Fitzgibbon, Menzies etc we would have been changing every couple of years which in our case, with the lack of home grown players wasn't feasable.Signing Newton, Galea etc allows us the time to develop our own players.
Not saying that Fitzgibbon isn't a good signing, he quite clearly is a good signing and has had a positive affect and is what was what Hull needed.'"
Very sensible post. From larry's post earlier though it looks like it's still the case
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| Quote: Kingmaker "Like I say, to those who don't know the game too well, its obviously quite all right to pay big money to crocks here for the pension as long as they have an impressive CV.
We might not have signed stars as big as Berrigan and Matt King, but where did their clubs finish last year compared to Rovers? Any idiot can see players should be valued on performance rather than rep honours from the past.
But the point you're missing is that it's OK to retrospectively say a player has done well, or another on has been injured too much, but that isn't the point I'm making, it's that rovers are obviously paying more than other SL clubs for the same standard players
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