not heard that one but nick scruton is joining us apparently?

With the news of Lawlers vertibrae problem during the Leigh game, it highlights that some players are committed to the club, whilst others (maybe Kelly) are not.

I think Kelly has burned his bridges, as he has at other clubs.

I don't think he doesn't care though, he just lacks the self-discipline and professionalism not to let himself and his employers down, which to me is subtlety different.

Certainly last year at Wembley, he was one of the few that stood up to be counted in a horrible performance by the team, and who didn't deserve that scoreline. What might turn out to be his last game for us was a motm display in securing a result that might prove crucial to our SL survival. He looked like he cared then. It's just away from the pitch that me makes a balls of things.

If Salford were to go down would you take Dobson back ?

That would depend, I'd like to think there is better available, we had his best years 08-13.

I'll join you on the fence.

We wouldn't be getting the player we had back then, but he's a good pro with a decent fitness record. Sheens will have a good idea as to what he could offer.

We need to play to win a couple of games first.

To be honest think like not wanting to announce sheen this early. How do we not know Kr haven't already done all deals for news signings, cos they will of told players who wont be here next season already and me personally think we may lose 10 to 12 layers.. this includes larroyer ,boubedza, green, kelly, campese I think others to maybe go would be tiles. Sio, horne, blair,

In his interview after the London game, NH described the turnover of players we had ahead of 2015 as madness, iirc. I think 6 or 7, maybe 8, is more likely.

Tbf, with a decent preseason a lot of the players we have would look a lot better. 3 points from 18 in our first 9 games was disastrous. Once we got going (relatively speaking), even with all the injuries we got 11 points from our next 14 games. Not brilliant, but roughly the sort of level many expected preseason (the Oldham debacle, aside).

Lets make sure we are still in super league first then worry about who is going and who is coming

Highly unlikely to be anywhere near that number in my opinion.
A complete turnover of players to that degree would take almost a full season for them to gel together.
My guess is it will be around half a dozen or so players.

So glad Salford got beat

I've tried my best, but please will someone translate this post for me.