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I agree but he wanted to leave apparently I think I read somewhere he wanted to go part time

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There’s some solid players who have been good servants in there. Best of luck to all of them.

Be interesting to see who comes in now...

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Clarkson I would have kept,the rest for various reasons had to go.

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Quote: des lawson "Clarkson I would have kept,the rest for various reasons had to go.'"

Thank god marsh has gone their is a lot better out their Better in the championship if we looked

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Quote: Someday "Thank god marsh has gone their is a lot better out their Better in the championship if we looked'"
A bit over the top, Matty may not have become what we hoped but he gave solid service to us? The question I have asked numerous times is where are our young prospects supposed to learn their trade? We have no reserves. I wish him well & the others who are moving on & there will be a team out there where they will do a job. The one thing they all have in common is that unlike most of us on here they were good enough to put on the shirt & have and be given the chance to fail.Something in my youth that I could only dream of.

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Quote: des lawson "Clarkson I would have kept,the rest for various reasons had to go.'"


I get the feeling Clarkson was on quite a good wage and that will have had a bearing on the decision

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Quote: Beverley red "A bit over the top, Matty may not have become what we hoped but he gave solid service to us? The question I have asked numerous times is where are our young prospects supposed to learn their trade? We have no reserves. I wish him well & the others who are moving on & there will be a team out there where they will do a job. The one thing they all have in common is that unlike most of us on here they were good enough to put on the shirt & have and be given the chance to fail.Something in my youth that I could only dream of.'"

You are right there is a team out there for Marsh but I don’t think it’s a super league team he has had is chance hear and failed

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Wasn't Marsh once touted as the next big thing in Super League? - What happened, where did it all go wrong?

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I just dont think he's commanding enough for a half back. He can tackle, kick, put plays on but just can't control a game.

I think fullback is his best position, and especially at York/Championship level should be able to do well with his natural attributes. Compare his application to atkin at half back and its chalk and cheese

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Quote: Rye_Robin "Wasn't Marsh once touted as the next big thing in Super League? - What happened, where did it all go wrong?'"


Tbf, 42 first team games for Rovers is more than most youngsters promoted to the fringes of the squad ever make.

Where it goes wrong is potential being overhyped and then excessive disappointment when a high proportion of kids don’t make it in SL. There were frequent calls for Oakes to be given more opportunities this year, until it became clear there’s parts of his game that need work. I hope he makes it, but when I see people talk about him as a future international... well, it’s premature at best.

Marsh is the same generation, give or take, as Logan, Lancaster, HTW, Turgut, Downs, Dean et al. So we’re far from alone in this.

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I would be surprised if TS hasn't already got replacements lined up. I suspect that they will be better players and therefore command higher salaries hence the big clear out. Perhaps some of the players that were being touted throughout the season are back in the frame.

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So is Todd staying then? I see he’s not the clearout list. I’m very observant you see.

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I agree. Cutting out the deadwood is a non negotiable if we are to progress. We need 4-5 quality signings now and I don't mean cast offs from other middle eight clubs.

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Quote: Zook Ema's Hose "I agree. Cutting out the deadwood is a non negotiable if we are to progress. We need 4-5 quality signings now and I don't mean cast offs from other middle eight clubs.'"

I agree but we need to find good players but we’re from that’s the problem

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I think ‘deadwood’ is unnecessarily harsh on lads who helped us to promotion and/or SL survival.

That said, we do need to improve to challenge higher up the table. But as a lot of clubs are finding, and Someday notes, quality is hard to find. The number of youngsters coming through and becoming established has been low these last few years. It’s been a long-term problem for us, but it seems to be right across SL now. Add to that, a steady trickle of the best of British heading to the NRL and a choice of reserve graders with the right passport to come the other way, and it is really tough. it’s tough for everyone at least, so that is some consolation.

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