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Announced his departure. Apparently TS has taken on some of his duties. I suppose he is off the wage bill. Be interesting to see what happens next. Would like to see the Garbutt rumour confirmed but would be surprised.

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Well, I don’t think anybody can doubt his honesty. And it’s not like we’d been flying high before his arrival.

It didn’t work out, but that’s where you learn the big lessons in life. Also and tbf, he was still involved while it was put back together again. Good luck to him.

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My opinion:
Waste of time
Waste of money
Too anonymous
Too interested in bringing ex teammates than doing a proper job ala Motu Tony
Rovers benifited him, more than rovers (management networking)
Pretty disappointing tenure considering who and what he’d done in the game.
Bye Jamie.

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Quote: Hessle rover "My opinion
Agreed!

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Quote: Hessle rover "My opinion
I still do not no why he did and I liked him has a player

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Jamie who?

I expect the next announcement will be an extension for Sheens, then moving into Director of football in 2020 and keeping an eye on Webbo as he takes the coaching role again.

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The posts on this thread show why we are only supporters. From what i've been told, the professionalism and improvement in the backroom staff and functions are noticeably better than before he was here. He has helped lay some solid foundations for the club and i for one thank him for what he has done.

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Quote: Hessle rover "My opinion
Waste of money How much did he cost? again what were his deliverables
Too anonymous He raised the profile of the club when he arrived and even donned the shirt when backs to wall, I agree he could have done more on his twitter feed
Too interested in bringing ex teammates than doing a proper job ala Motu Tony I agree that Mulhern is rubbish
Rovers benifited him, more than rovers (management networking) did it? I'm struggling to see how we benfitted him other than wages, he had media work already
Pretty disappointing tenure considering who and what he’d done in the game.
Bye Jamie. He was a prop forward with no experience of management in the game, if he did fail, (which without knowing his objectives I struggle to see how he can be judged) then it our fault for employing someone who had no experience in the area he was going into '"


Apart from the stuff in red I agree icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "The posts on this thread show why we are only supporters. From what i've been told, the professionalism and improvement in the backroom staff and functions are noticeably better than before he was here. He has helped lay some solid foundations for the club and i for one thank him for what he has done.'"


I’ve heard it said that things were a bit semi-pro under Morgan, and that structures have improved since. However, results deteriorated too - reaching a nadir in 2016. It isn’t a completely fair comparison - the board had a different focus, and there were more opportunities to bring in players that could make a difference back then.

It’s difficult to know the extent to which Peacock was responsible for what happened leading up to relegation and certainly it was nowhere near all his fault. He inherited a situation that was already less than ideal, plenty of stuff that you’d assume was outside his remit went wrong, including a lot of plain bad luck. When things got desperate he pulled on the shirt, and when the worst happened he offered his resignation. None of the negativity reflects badly on him as person. However, recruitment (or relative lack thereof, in the forwards particularly - perhaps we’d already allocated too much budget elsewhere), the 5-year plan and focus on patience, the reaction to the Oldham defeat, and eventual relegation... the failures were very visible. Behind the scenes he may very well have made a very positive contribution.

We make one more tackle or win that coin toss in the MPG, and maybe history would have turned out very differently. Top bloke i’m sure, but as it turned out his long-term plan barely got out of the starting gate. As he said himself, everybody has a plan until they’re punched in the face, and the fates came armed with knuckle dusters that year.

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Quote: Mild Rover "I’ve heard it said that things were a bit semi-pro under Morgan, and that structures have improved since. However, results deteriorated too - reaching a nadir in 2016. It isn’t a completely fair comparison - the board had a different focus, and there were more opportunities to bring in players that could make a difference back then.

It’s difficult to know the extent to which Peacock was responsible for what happened leading up to relegation and certainly it was nowhere near all his fault. He inherited a situation that was already less than ideal, plenty of stuff that you’d assume was outside his remit went wrong, including a lot of plain bad luck. When things got desperate he pulled on the shirt, and when the worst happened he offered his resignation. None of the negativity reflects badly on him as person. However, recruitment (or relative lack thereof, in the forwards particularly - perhaps we’d already allocated too much budget elsewhere), the 5-year plan and focus on patience, the reaction to the Oldham defeat, and eventual relegation... the failures were very visible. Behind the scenes he may very well have made a very positive contribution.

We make one more tackle or win that coin toss in the MPG, and maybe history would have turned out very differently. Top bloke i’m sure, but as it turned out his long-term plan barely got out of the starting gate. As he said himself, everybody has a plan until they’re punched in the face, and the fates came armed with knuckle dusters that year.'"

All valid points. However the ultimate question you have to ask is "Are we in a better condition as a club since he has been here?"

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There are a lot of people at the club (backroom staff etc) who would disagree with every one of your points. Several people at the club before his arrival claim he has made a big impact to systems and structures since he arrived and that he laid the foundations for Tim Sheens.

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Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "All valid points. However the ultimate question you have to ask is "Are we in a better condition as a club since he has been here?"'"


From the outside, and noting that Peacock should get neither all the credit or all the blame i’d say, on balance ‘no’. There are plenty of caveats I could add to that, and after relegation it could have been much worse. But we’re three years further on from the last time we were quite good in the top flight, and top 8 seemed more likely going into 2016 (for all that it turned out badly) than it does right now, even with promotion and survival secured pretty efficiently. Maybe after a couple more signings, we can think about getting back to the level that caused Morgan to be released!

What does impress me about his statement is that there are no excuses, or complaints about the adversity we faced. It was, as he says, a baptism of fire. There are plenty of more experienced people who would have struggled under those circumstances. Even Sheens, when somebody suggested he must have seen everything in his career, said this year’s injuries, illnesses and drug suspension were at another level to anything he’d experienced. It’s tough, especially away from the handful of the wealthiest clubs, and Peacock will have learned a lot. Personally, I wish we’d stayed up, won a trophy and he’d learned nowt, but life is full of disappointments. icon_smile.gif

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Peacock was available so Rovers created a role for him. For me that's the wrong way around.

Sheens came in and Peacock was no longer needed if indeed he ever had been in the first place. Peacock went part time then one day a week then see you when you next pop in.

Good luck to Jamie in truth his worthwhile contribution at Rovers finished some time ago this announcement simply makes it official.

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Peacock for me was another in a raft of abortive management appointments. On the board and coaching alike. We've had Scott,  Brown, Hackney, Keable, Langley, Pease, Peacock, Sandercock, Chester, Webster.. all brought in to fanfare/"great appointments" comments but are any still at the club except Webster? Either the chairmen have appointed the wrong people every year or... Meanwhile Mike Smith is a constant.

Since Lakin and Morgan left we've had average appointment after average appointment at the top table of the club and have stagnated as a result. The board continue to spend hundreds of thousands per year to just stand still.

Fresh thinking is needed for me. Bring in someone to the board from a NRL club for a couple of years. Back him with cash to get ahead in areas like memberships, reserve grade, marketing and match day experience. Similarly go for a strong NRL coaching assistant to succeed Sheens (looking like he hasn't signed an extension?). As I have commented before there is nothing in appointments so far to say we want to actually challenge any time soon. I hope this will be addressed with some ambitious announcement soon.

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Quote: Zook Ema's Hose "Peacock for me was another in a raft of abortive management appointments. On the board and coaching alike. We've had Scott,  Brown, Hackney, Keable, Langley, Pease, Peacock, Sandercock, Chester, Webster.. all brought in to fanfare/"great appointments" comments but are any still at the club except Webster? Either the chairmen have appointed the wrong people every year or... Meanwhile Mike Smith is a constant.

Since Lakin and Morgan left we've had average appointment after average appointment at the top table of the club and have stagnated as a result. The board continue to spend hundreds of thousands per year to just stand still.

Fresh thinking is needed for me. Bring in someone to the board from a NRL club for a couple of years. Back him with cash to get ahead in areas like memberships, reserve grade, marketing and match day experience. Similarly go for a strong NRL coaching assistant to succeed Sheens (looking like he hasn't signed an extension?). As I have commented before there is nothing in appointments so far to say we want to actually challenge any time soon. I hope this will be addressed with some ambitious announcement soon.'"

I don’t agree with all of that but some good points made, the main problem no one seems to address is who is going to supply the money? For all they have done the board don’t have the millions required & judgeing by the crowds we get the fans are not there in large enough numbers or prepared to pay a reasonable price either.

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