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| Quote: moxi1 "The qualifiers concept is a joke. '"
Bet you wasn't saying that this time last year
But I tell you what is a joke. RL is supposed to be expanding and widening the net, yet we have 2 teams in Super League from the same city. Either merge Hull and Hull KR and spread that net including another team, or drop Hull or Hull KR out of Super League. This is not a wind up, but a serious proposition. Would you be happy if 2 SL places were taken up by a West Leeds and a East Leeds for example?
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| Quote: Fuzzy Duck "Bet you wasn't saying that this time last year
I’ve said it every year? You telling me the concept isn’t a joke?
And I’ll answer your ‘serious’ question with a question. Leeds, wakey, Bradford, Huddersfield etc. are all within the same area, should we merge all of them too? And does the game want to lose nearly 20k fans by merging us and Hull? Can the game afford that? Me thinks you’re on the wind up.
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| Quote: Fuzzy Duck "Bet you wasn't saying that this time last year
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| Check our posts, all of them you hopless bell end, all of us, that have been involved think this system is idiotic.
It's not good for Fax, it's not good for Fev, it's not good for Toulouse, it's not good for Toronto.
A sports club needs more than a couple of weeks and the back of a fag pack to organise it's finances and employees.
How hard is that?
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30596_1286642206.jpg If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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| That was in reply to that "Fuzzy Duck" character who clearly came on a fishing mission that we all gave a bite to.
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| Quote: moxi1 "And I’ll answer your ‘serious’ question with a question. Leeds, wakey, Bradford, Huddersfield etc. are all within the same area, should we merge all of them too? And does the game want to lose nearly 20k fans by merging us and Hull? Can the game afford that? Me thinks you’re on the wind up.'"
Leeds, Wakey, Bradford and Huddersfield are "different" towns/cities. Hull have TWO teams in SL. If you put aside your childish differences then Hull could provide a single stronger club which would benefit RL as a whole as it would bring in another team such as Toronto or Toulouse. Maybe retain some recognition of the old Hull clubs by calling the new united team Hull Airlie Robins or Hull Red Birds?
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| Quote: Fuzzy Duck "Leeds, Wakey, Bradford and Huddersfield are "different" towns/cities. Hull have TWO teams in SL. If you put aside your childish differences then Hull could provide a single stronger club which would benefit RL as a whole as it would bring in another team such as Toronto or Toulouse. Maybe retain some recognition of the old Hull clubs by calling the new united team Hull Airlie Robins or Hull Red Birds?'"
Do us all a favour and go away.. Unless you live here you will never understand why it will not happen. How close are the Lancs teams to each other or the West Yorks teams...nice try for getting a bite, you got some, including me, but you are on a loser here.
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| Quote: Fuzzy Duck "Leeds, Wakey, Bradford and Huddersfield are "different" towns/cities. Hull have TWO teams in SL. If you put aside your childish differences then Hull could provide a single stronger club which would benefit RL as a whole as it would bring in another team such as Toronto or Toulouse. Maybe retain some recognition of the old Hull clubs by calling the new united team Hull Airlie Robins or Hull Red Birds?'"
Hi. Put simply, we have enough support for two rival clubs, but probably wouldn’t have enough for one combined club.
Our childish differences reflect a rich sporting heritage in the city.
Just to note also that some towns and cities are different sizes. In part that is why we have a distinction between towns and cities. So, for example, it isn’t hugely surprising that London has 5 teams in the EPL, while Manchester has 2, but Burnley and Huddersfield only have 1 apiece.
We could equally say that it doesn’t make sense for West Yorkshire to have 4 SL teams when the East Yorkshire has only two. Crowds at Hull and Rovers compare reasonably favourably with some of those W.Yorks teams. Our catchment and the level of local interest is no more a problem for Rovers than for Wakefield, Castleford or Hudds. Probably less so.
from the perspective of somebody in Mixenden, Halifax is small and Hull is much further away.
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| Oh, I get it. So the RL should accommodate Hull's selfish traditional inner city rivalry? That's in the past, time to move on. A merged club could relocate somewhere in the centre. How's about making some space in the Bransholme Council Estate area? Surely some houses there due for demolition?
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| Quote: Fuzzy Duck "Oh, I get it. So the RL should accommodate Hull's selfish traditional inner city rivalry? That's in the past, time to move on. A merged club could relocate somewhere in the centre. How's about making some space in the Bransholme Council Estate area? Surely some houses there due for demolition?'"
Clubs should succeed or fail on their own merits. You’re confusing ‘accomodate’ with ‘not discriminate’.
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| Right I admire his creativeness in his trolling. To think in an alternative reality a merged club could be playing out of 'the north point shopping centre super stadium'
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| Didn't realise Mr Duck was a Blue Sox fan? Thanks for popping by with your novel suggestion but we are doing our best at present to remove ourselves from SL so maybe your team could come back up and fail miserably again?
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| Quote: Fuzzy Duck "Oh, I get it. So the RL should accommodate Hull's selfish traditional inner city rivalry? That's in the past, time to move on. A merged club could relocate somewhere in the centre. How's about making some space in the Bransholme Council Estate area? Surely some houses there due for demolition?'"
That rivalry you speak of is what kept rugby league alive during the early 80s when the game was dying on its feet or at the very least going through very uncertain times. During that period, the two clubs were winning every major honour on offer which resulted in raising the profile of the game. Who could forget the 1980 Wembley final that filled wembley and was covered by the mainstream media in the UK and even abroad? to the extent that both the BBC and ITV made documentaries about the whole day. (All Hull let loose and another documentary which for the moment escapes my memory)
With regards to your suggestion of one team in Hull. That concept has been put forward many times and acknowledged each time to be both unworkable and non viable. Just because you have one team does not naturally guarantee success. So, what happens if there is one club, but it performs poorly and ends up with declining attendances? how does that help the game?, It doesn't.
Plus, one team in Hull would almost certainly in my opinion, mean an estimated loss of around 7000 to 9000 fans from the game, as many would not choose to watch just one rugby league side in the city, such is the fierce rivalry. These numbers could not be replaced by simply bringing in a new team, it doesnt work like that. It takes decades of gradual growth with a lot of hard work involved to achieve the level of supporter base that both clubs have at the moment. Finally I will say, that two teams from the same city, whether it be football rugby league or any other major sport, always provides that extra buzz and excitement, plus always draws the attention of TV companies etc. Just look at the magic weekend where the two clubs are always drawn together, there is a good commercial reason for that.
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| Every true rugby league fan loves to watch a good hull derby passion pride big hits why wouldn’t you ... both clubs are well supported so what’s the problem... hull have had a big of success we have some good foundation in place to build some both bring good players through the academy .. what a silly stupid idea
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