I watched the Scotland game this morning and although the team performance was extremely poor, I thought young Oakes stood out. He looked very astute in possession and made some great yards, I think he is ready for first team action in SL now, probably over Shaw (or rotate them week on week and keep the players fresh) , what are your thoughts???

I also heard a rumour that Moran is leaving us, he dropped quite a lot of ball this morning and didn't look quite up to speed at times but still managed to make some good drives at times, should we keep or release?

I like Oakes, might possibly be to soon next year for anything other than a few apperances, but certainly expect him to be our first choice winger in a couple of years.

Never been overly impressed with Moran. Think it's best that for his own career he left Rovers, as really can't see him starting or being on the bench at all. And he needs to play games.
That's the reason Milton & Harris have left us. And think it's best for him as well.

Although size isn,t everything(so my wife says!) at 101kg(15st 12ibs) and 180cm(5ft 10 and a bit inches) for those not brought up with this metric carp, Moran is small for a Super League prop.
Sheens has said we need some size in the squad,so for me its a no.
Seems harsh but we need some real size and power this time and must avoid being bullied by other teams packs.

Moran for me has been left behind this season and even when given the chance has not really stepped up to the plate. I would expect if he has a new club they will want to parade him as their own for the World Cup, so he could be another one released unless he spends another year on loan at York to see how he goes

Moran is another of those undersize forwards for his position, which we seem to possess in spades nowadays. Unfortunately on the limited evidence seen so far, he doesn't possess an exceptional skill set to compensate for his size limitations. Can't really see a future for him here if we sign Walne.

My thoughts are that at the moment Shaw and Carney are our best two wingers. Oakes has heaps of potential but at 18 he will blossom in SL but not as a regular week after week. Too early for that. Not a good idea to rotate week by week either as players need consistency to produce their best.

oakes defence has been all over the place on the video clips I've seen of the COHA. He'd be badly exposed at SL level IMO

Oakes for me is good to go now, if you're good enough, you're old enough and I think he is.

I can't even remember who Moran is, so I couldn't give a rat's ass about him.

That's a good point, tbh, I've not seen enough of him to comment on his defence, I don't really remember him looking that bad though.

The problem that we failed to solve for about three and a half years which Sheens did seem to get a handle on over the course of this season has always been our communication between our second rowers and centres. We've had players jamming in or dropping out all over the shop leaving our wingers massively exposed.

I have to disagree. I watched 90 percent of academy games and the only time he looked iffy in defence was when his centre left him exposed and often 3 on 1. No winger can defend that. He looked strong defensively both for the academy and for the first team. I would say a much larger percentage of points were shipped down the opposite edge.

However I agree there is always room for improvement but ‘clips’ don’t show the true picture as you only see tries not general play. IMO shaw is a weaker defender and was exposed at championship level so will be at SL even more.

The question is who will partner JC as he will be the only winger we have that’s a shoe in week after week. Oakes has time to blossom but Shaw has 1 season to prove he is SL standard.

One of The Peg's better veiled wind ups.

He's never seen a COHA video. If he had he'd know Oakes is their best player with day light second.

You're right, I've never seen a full game but from clips I've seen it seems a fair proportion of tries have come down his wing. Now he may be the greatest defensive winger in the game and I've just seen the bad bits but there were plenty of shots of him waving his arms about while the opposition winger scored. He looks a decent prospect though. wakey do seem to produce them more than both the Hull clubs combined

I wonder why wakey do when you think in the past both our clubs used to turn them out like shelling peanuts

Stop talking silly. Very few tries came down that edge and when they did it was because his centre (an F.C. ring fenced player I believe) went walk abouts. The same centre cost the team a place in the final so before criticising go down and watch the teams and get the facts you need.

Regarding Wakefield, they don’t have the resources of KR of F.C. so they scour the M62 corridor seeking the best players they can get, sometimes works sometimes doesn’t. Tom Johnston wasn’t expected to feature he was a late developer and was only offered a ‘pay as you play contract’ with the academy. Look at him now!!! Some of these boys need more opportunities after 19 others don’t.

I hope oakes does make it as we'll be in the market for a new winger in a couple of years