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Another Dixon horror show last night, with 3 of the first 4 tries attributable to his soft and spineless defensive ineptitude and poor positioning.

Personally, I don't want to see him in a Rovers shirt ever again. I've seen enough. He is Italian Army surplus. Time to give the youngsters a go.

Am I being too harsh?

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He can take Tilse with him for me.

Dixon has great pace obviously but unfortunately that's it, too small, too light, too many errors.

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Could do with a pep talk from Kevin Penny, perhaps. It tells it's own story that he lost the battle for the third spot in the back three with Cockayne and then was overtaken by Shaw as well.

The problem goes much wider than KD, though. Fair enough, it is was far from our strongest 17 - but if (hypothetically) we released the players who played yesterday, how many would be able to quickly secure a move to another SL team, even as a squad player? And ignoring quota issues.

I'd estimate 10 yes (maybe 6 as first choice), 3 maybe and 4 no. That's why we're struggling.

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I would not play Dixon again unless he comes on has a water carrier he is hopeless icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED: then again if he brought the water on he would drop the Bottle

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Quote: cravenpark1 "I would not play Dixon again unless he comes on has a water carrier he is hopeless icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Mild Rover "Could do with a pep talk from Kevin Penny, perhaps. It tells it's own story that he lost the battle for the third spot in the back three with Cockayne and then was overtaken by Shaw as well.

The problem goes much wider than KD, though. Fair enough, it is was far from our strongest 17 - but if (hypothetically) we released the players who played yesterday, how many would be able to quickly secure a move to another SL team, even as a squad player? And ignoring quota issues.

I'd estimate 10 yes (maybe 6 as first choice), 3 maybe and 4 no. That's why we're struggling.'"

Interesting perspective. My views below:

First Team SL Quality (11) - Sio, Minns, Thornley, Blair, Walker, Lunt, Allgood, Greenwood, Green, Mulhern, Clarkson
Not First Team SL Quality (3) - Marsh, Dixon, Cockayne (now past it)
Questionable / Maybe (3) - Tilse (good in patches), Lawler (another 10 games needed), Moran (way too early to tell)

As things stand, I think that Matty Marsh could make it in SL if he switches to centre and if he bulks up a bit. For now, he hasn't the speed of thought, the game smarts, variety of kicking and attacking skills and most importantly the personality to make impact as a SL starting halfback, despite what Campo and Webster say.

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Quote: Pickering Red "Interesting perspective. My views below
From what I have seen of Matty Marsh he looks a prospect or the best we have had in a while. The only way he will get the skills you want to see is by playing! there by hangs the British dilemma where will he get game time? by the time I was his age I had been playing twice a week through a long winter seasons since aged 10 about 500 games (crude estimate) we also played on a night with mates in the streets or at play time with any old ball we could find that's what honed our skills (not mine I was rubbish) I would make a guess that he will have played less than 200 games in his life especially if he came from a school that did not play rugby. My whole point is we have to give him & the team time or we will be forever grabbing what aged Aussies that are willing to come.

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dixon is rubbish. I'm sure the coaching staff know and I doubt he'll get a contract renewal when the time comes

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Quote: Jake the Peg "dixon is rubbish. I'm sure the coaching staff know and I doubt he'll get a contract renewal when the time comes'"

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When does his contract expire? Think a lot of clubs would swoop on him.

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I think perhaps both Dixon and also actually Omari Caro could have made superstar RL players had they come through the ranks of an established Super League side like a Leeds/Wigan rather then through the London system.

This is obviously wild speculation with no reasoning behind it rather then just what I think, but you can draw parallels between them both as being "raw" players and I think London didn't fully realise what they had with those two and failed to provide them with the kind of specialist training that would have developed them further or perhaps lacked the facilities or inclination to do so.

I don't think it's too late for Dixon but I don't think we are the right club for him at the moment. IMO he needs to spend a year or two in the national leagues, rack up the game time, be playing on the wing every single game every single week becoming more "streetwise" at a decent standard before then being brought back into the Super League. He's a talent and in offense he offers a massive threat. I think Dixon has all the stuff you cant teach, but he needs more time spent on the things that can be taught, such as defensive positioning.

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Dixon has a few parts of his game to improve and if he doesn't start improving soon he won't get many more chances.
1. He needs to improve his defense, IMO he should always go low to the legs and forget about the offload. That's if he has the bottle to go low.
2. He needs to be a lot better under the high ball. At least compete for it!!!
3. When he's running the ball out at a kick return he needs to hit the defense low again. He is never going to get a leg drive on in the same way as Sio, so he needs to try to get a quick play of the ball.

Even if he did the three things above regularly other teams will still target him, he's gonna have to be brave and I'm not sure that he has the mentality.

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Quote: Captain Charisma "I think perhaps both Dixon and also actually Omari Caro could have made superstar RL players had they come through the ranks of an established Super League side like a Leeds/Wigan rather then through the London system.

This is obviously wild speculation with no reasoning behind it rather then just what I think, but you can draw parallels between them both as being "raw" players and I think London didn't fully realise what they had with those two and failed to provide them with the kind of specialist training that would have developed them further or perhaps lacked the facilities or inclination to do so.

I don't think it's too late for Dixon but I don't think we are the right club for him at the moment. IMO he needs to spend a year or two in the national leagues, rack up the game time, be playing on the wing every single game every single week becoming more "streetwise" at a decent standard before then being brought back into the Super League. He's a talent and in offense he offers a massive threat. I think Dixon has all the stuff you cant teach, but he needs more time spent on the things that can be taught, such as defensive positioning.'"

Omari Caro, potential Superstar RL player....lol lol lol. There's hope for us all

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Quote: spegs "Omari Caro, potential Superstar RL player....lol lol lol. There's hope for us all'"


I think he had potential. He had size and pace.

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