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| It looks like Dobbo’s going to be out for at least 1-2 weeks – subject to scan results – so the question is: What do Rovers do to cover his loss?
(1) Reshuffle the squad and play Withers/Murrell/Mika?
(2) Give youth a chance – Jordan Lee or Matty Beherrall?
(3) Bring in a loan signing if it turns out to be long term?
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| My immediate reaction is under no circumstances play Murrell at scrum half.
If Sandercock has watched last seasons playbacks then he will surely have noticed the nine video nasties when Murrell deputised for Dobbo.
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| Quote: Paul T - HKR "It looks like Dobbo’s going to be out for at least 1-2 weeks – subject to scan results – so the question is
Short term i think we will reshuffle with Withers going to 7. If the injury turns into something medium to long term then we will need to look at the loan market. Mellor, Powell, Mcnally?
Young Beharrell is not ready. Jordan Lee will never be ready. Bell isnt far off but i shudder at the prospect of Craig Hall being his calming influence in the halves!!!
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| Withers to 7, and let Keal Carlile interchange with Josh. It's not the most creative option, but we looked solid without Dobbo. Slug it out until he's fixed up.
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| Quote: SirStan "Withers to 7, and let Keal Carlile interchange with Josh. It's not the most creative option, but we looked solid without Dobbo. Slug it out until he's fixed up.'"
Agree.
It's who you put at 6/13 that's the harder choice.
Do you help the halfs out by putting Murrell at 13 for his kicking? Or stick with an extra prop-type runner there (Lovegrove), to give 'em a platform? Do you keep Hall coming in from the wing to play 6 in attack - it was one thing with Dobson, but makeshift [iand[/i unconventional?
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| Quote: R.B.A "
Young Beharrell is not ready. Jordan Lee will never be ready. Bell isnt far off but i shudder at the prospect of Craig Hall being his calming influence in the halves!!!'"
If Jordan Lee will never be ready then why is he at the club, but more to the point why did the club send him on the Oz Academy tour?
I listen and read people commenting that none of the academy half backs are ready. I even asked Justin last season ‘why aren’t these guys ready?’ I told Justin to his face he was wrong to persist with Murrell instead of giving one of these lads a chance. He went along with the general consensus of - its their age, their size, too early in their development, lack of maturity, they’ll get roughed up, they’ll burn out, they’ll make mistakes, they’ll lose confidence, they need nursemaiding, blah blah!
I watched these guys regularly last season and they are the best we have in reserve. To me that makes them next choice. The thing is, the coaching staff will never know if these guys are ready if they aren’t given a chance.
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| Quote: Paul T - HKR "If Jordan Lee will never be ready then why is he at the club, but more to the point why did the club send him on the Oz Academy tour?
I listen and read people commenting that none of the academy half backs are ready. I even asked Justin last season ‘why aren’t these guys ready?’ I told Justin to his face he was wrong to persist with Murrell instead of giving one of these lads a chance. He went along with the general consensus of - its their age, their size, too early in their development, lack of maturity, they’ll get roughed up, they’ll burn out, they’ll make mistakes, they’ll lose confidence, they need nursemaiding, blah blah!
I watched these guys regularly last season and they are the best we have in reserve. To me that makes them next choice. The thing is, the coaching staff will never know if these guys are ready if they aren’t given a chance.'"
Those all sound like legitimate concerns to me. The coaching staff see them in training and academy games - they'll have a good idea how ready they are. I'm not saying the staff are infallible - but they are professionals. One day Bell may be better than Murrell. Is he now? Doubtful IMO.
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| Quote: Paul T - HKR "If Jordan Lee will never be ready then why is he at the club, but more to the point why did the club send him on the Oz Academy tour? '"
I'm in no position to comment about the youth - but I do realise that not every player we have on the books will 'make it' - hell, I doubt even 80% would make it. Even the top teams will have a high proportion of 'drop outs' too. If we binned them all - we simply wouldn't be able to field a team.
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| Quote: Paul T - HKR "If Jordan Lee will never be ready then why is he at the club, but more to the point why did the club send him on the Oz Academy tour?
I listen and read people commenting that none of the academy half backs are ready. I even asked Justin last season ‘why aren’t these guys ready?’ I told Justin to his face he was wrong to persist with Murrell instead of giving one of these lads a chance. He went along with the general consensus of - its their age, their size, too early in their development, lack of maturity, they’ll get roughed up, they’ll burn out, they’ll make mistakes, they’ll lose confidence, they need nursemaiding, blah blah!
I watched these guys regularly last season and they are the best we have in reserve. To me that makes them next choice. The thing is, the coaching staff will never know if these guys are ready if they aren’t given a chance.'"
Justin Morgan was spot on. He was criticised for having an over cautious approach with our youngsters like Taylor and Cox but looking at their performances now he was clearly spot on. They get their chance when they are physically and mentally ready, not before.
I watched every home Reserve game last season and a few of the away ones. Jordan Lee will never be a Super League player. I dont like to sound harsh and everybody who reads my posts knows that i like to praise our young players but on this occasion i think im right.
Matty Behharrel is a really good player and i think stands a chance of making it. However, anybody who watched him play in the friendly against Featherstone (his first game against men) and would still play him against Saints and Wire clearly have no regard for the kids well being and future. He would be physically and mentally smashed.
Our best young half is Matty Marsh who played for the Scholarship last season and featured briefly at the end of the Academy season. After half a dozen Academy games this season i fully expect fans to be clamouring for the 16 year old to be in the first team...
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And scored twice for them yesterday plus would require more salary than we probably have available on the cap.
Nailed on.
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