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Sorry to try get in the way of all the doom and gloom and knee-jerk reactions on here but looking at the full 80 minutes there are so positives to focus on.
Biggest plus point I'd say to come out of this season so far is James Green. He's developing into a star of the future for us. Other than this though I think quite a few of the forwards actually played pretty well. The Walkers when they came on really took it to Leeds and got in their faces, Larroyer looked to get at McGuire whenever possible and made good metres down the right hand side, Weyman found his front with almost every carry and tackled strongly and I was also impressed with his effort to get back when McGuire broke down field but he did look to be lacking a bit of match fitness. Costigan also defended well but needs to look to get more involved in play and I'd say the same applies to Poore who was disappointingly quiet.

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Agree on green, said yesterday after Peacock he was the best forward on the pitch, defensively and going forward for 50 minutes your pack was good, just lack that bit of skill, offload, fitness and pace. Your pack is the type of pack which would be better on a heavier pitch, so be interesting to see how they get on in the summer months and it gets hotter.

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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



I actually thought the forwards played well just tired in the second half

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We were very rarely broken in the middle of the pitch. Every time Leeds made ground it came from outside the 40 and the 60. No real issue with our pack's performance for me.

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Quote: EL CAMO "We were very rarely broken in the middle of the pitch. Every time Leeds made ground it came from outside the 40 and the 60. No real issue with our pack's performance for me.'"

Maybe your front row, but your backrowers still defend out wide and didn't help your backs at all by shuffling across fast enough. Weymans attempt on burrow was appalling poor. I would be seriously questioning your conditioning staff fir the work you have done in pre season.

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Fortunately from your POV you won't be playing backs as good as Watkins & Briscoe very often - if at all.

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How long is green contracted for? I heard wigan were interested in him

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Briscoe is a great player,always thought so,but i do wish he'd stop throwing himself forward a couple of metres when he gets up from a tackle.

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Did you get rid of all the voices in your head? Do you now miss them and the things that they said?:



Quote: Jake the Peg "How long is green contracted for? I heard wigan were interested in him'"

We don't hear from you all off season. I'd forgotten how much of a tool you were. It's all coming back to me now.

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Well after feeling very deflated last night and most of today I will try and be positive!
Our pack was competitive in the first 40 but then visibly tired in the second half(maybe undercooked).
I thought when Costigan went off with concussion we lost a bit of aggression, he looks an excellent defender. Langley and Larroyer were steady and are clearly workhorses although I can see the Frenchmen scoring a few tries if our halves can create anything.
Green keeps his place and looks more than useful with a good offload. The Walker brothers and the two big aussies definitely need more gametime as they all looked rusty.
Josh worked manfully as ever but Leeds did a great job on him and maybe 80 mins is just too much? ? Kris Keating did ok on his debut and will be fine once he settes in!

Now the negatives, how on earth Liam Salter doesn't get a place in those threequarters is beyond me ? he had a blinder at Headingley a few months ago and is our best defensive centre by a million miles.
1 to 6 need to improve massively and quickly because its an area were we are not overly strong!
Its not time to panic as its only 1 game but the same old habits haven't been eradicated.
I just hope personally Lovegrove and Cox come into the 19 next week.

Roll on Huddersfield Sunday.

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Quote: markylever5 "We

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So we sign a French international 2nd rower and 1 game in chuck him into a different position? You are Claudio Ranieri, I claim my 5,000,000 lira.

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Quote: 10-5 "Briscoe is a great player,always thought so,but i do wish he'd stop throwing himself forward a couple of metres when he gets up from a tackle.'"


Did he actually get tackled on Sunday ?

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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



He will score a lot of tries this season with a good centre next to him who actually passes to him think he will outshine Ryan Hall

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What's happened to Lovegrove? He's often been one fo yuor most consistent performers. Or is it a case of Sandercock bringing in a lot of forwards and feels he needs to give them a first choice position?

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Quote: Scadge1 "What's happened to Lovegrove? He's often been one fo yuor most consistent performers. Or is it a case of Sandercock bringing in a lot of forwards and feels he needs to give them a first choice position?'"


ironically he's apparently down the pecking order because of his defence. been replaced by some top tackling forwards icon_wink.gif

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