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After today it seems we are are going for the cup which is dangerous
If we play in the second half like we did today Warrington will stuff us
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You want to hope it's chucking it down with rain again like the wigan game

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Quote: Jake the Peg "You want to hope it's chucking it down with rain again like the wigan game'"

What do you know, dip?

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Quote: Mild Rover "Time to give an airing to the well worn forum trope of the exploding irony meter.

Yes, he's a one-note gormer, but as irritations go it really should be minor. You should try living with my effin Internet connection.

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in fairness you guys can score against anybody, and in Kelly you have a star, unfort you don't seem to be able to tackle consistantly,

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Probably to featherstone Leigh and Sheffield

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Quote: fun time frankie "Probably to featherstone Leigh and Sheffield'"

Hope not and dont think so, I did not go yesterday but listened on line and if what the commenter said cox should go he has been crap all season the guy has not got any heart for super league rugby

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Maybe start with everyone taking off the red and white rose tinted glasses. The club needs to take some responsibility with its choice of coaches! Sandercock out of his depth! Where we any better we he left than when he came in? No probably worse.
Chester out of his depth! Are we any better than when Sandercock left? Again no, a year on, another season almost over and we still have a defence that leaks point at will. Isn't a coches job to improve the players both in defence and attack, not seen a lot of that in defence! What do our fitness staff do?, a lot of the time it looks like men against boys with our forwards, no size? We might have a good attack, but defence is where matches are won and I just want to see my team win! I hope and pray Peacock is going to bring some winning culture and more importantly maybe give our coach some ideas on defensive structure and methods otherwise were are just going to struggle year in year out, if we are in the bottom four your planning for the next season isn't helped and signing players will become more difficult as they would be unwilling to commit. Hopefully we have enough to stay in the super league, but my head tells me its going to be like this year after year unless changes are made.

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Quote: cravenpark1 "Hope not and dont think so, I did not go yesterday but listened on line and if what the commenter said cox should go he has been crap all season the guy has not got any heart for super league rugby'"



Regards Cox, his stats for yesterday were 4 runs for 6 meters (Average 1.5m per run), that's just appalling.

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You will stay in Super League after the Middle 8's but that will be papering over the cracks. You have had to win only 3 games to get to the Semi Final which just goes to show that the Cup run is as much about luck as ability. I believe Catalan also made the Semi in 2010 when they finished bottom, by coincidence they also played Warrington in their Semi and got flogged. You are no further on than 2010 other than you've spent shed loads on average players. You wasted the licensing period when money should have been spent improving facilities and the youth section of the club. Just think where you could be if you'd spent hundreds of thousands in these areas over the last 6 years instead of hovering around 8th spot in the table whilst spending up to cap every year.

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Quote: el red "You will stay in Super League after the Middle 8's but that will be papering over the cracks. You have had to win only 3 games to get to the Semi Final which just goes to show that the Cup run is as much about luck as ability. I believe Catalan also made the Semi in 2010 when they finished bottom, by coincidence they also played Warrington in their Semi and got flogged. You are no further on than 2010 other than you've spent shed loads on average players. You wasted the licensing period when money should have been spent improving facilities and the youth section of the club. Just think where you could be if you'd spent hundreds of thousands in these areas over the last 6 years instead of hovering around 8th spot in the table whilst spending up to cap every year.'"


Not wanting to bite being unable to withhold I'll go for it.

I'm not sure of your club allegiances or agenda for spouting tripe so I'll do this on a purely neutral perspective.

I'd say that dropping into the middle 8's will not paper over the cracks it'll highlight the fact we didn't deserve to be in the top 8. Struggling into the top 8 would have papered over the cracks and more than likely seen us getting stuffed week in week out in a competition that we had no chance of doing anything other than just making up the numbers.

Stating we only play 3 games to get into the semi is as inane as saying you only won 5 games to win the cup!!! I'd agree if we'd played 3 championship sides to get to the semi but we had the team sat 2nd in the championship, the current holders and a current top 8 SL side, so I think we've earned the semi. Will we win the semi? We've certainly got more chance than any team not in it.

Have we moved on since 2010? I agree we should have spent money on facilities, oh wait is that a new stand I see? This year we have more academy products playing, playing a better style of rugby but like a hell of a lot of clubs seem to be unable to play away from home (Wigan, Widnes, Catalan even Cas to some extent) and lets be honest are we on our own in not moving on since 2010.

Wakefield
Salford
Widnes
Hull
Catalans

and even Wire are showing signs of being on a downward trajectory over the last couple of years.

With the exception of Leeds, Saints and Castleford I'd say most fans (I'll include Wigan in this as well) are disillusioned with the state of their clubs and the direction they are heading.

I still think our coaching / mentality needs work, should Chester be sacked? probably not just yet all coaches need time. Is poaching up to the job of defence coach, that's maybe a review that's needed.

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Quote: el red "You will stay in Super League after the Middle 8's but that will be papering over the cracks. You have had to win only 3 games to get to the Semi Final which just goes to show that the Cup run is as much about luck as ability. I believe Catalan also made the Semi in 2010 when they finished bottom, by coincidence they also played Warrington in their Semi and got flogged. You are no further on than 2010 other than you've spent shed loads on average players. You wasted the licensing period when money should have been spent improving facilities and the youth section of the club. Just think where you could be if you'd spent hundreds of thousands in these areas over the last 6 years instead of hovering around 8th spot in the table whilst spending up to cap every year.'"


The irony there is that all of that stuff (apart from the semi final talk) could be spun around and applied to your club. Getting Sheens involved is the first sensible thing Koucash has done since he took over.

I think Rovers' problems, in a nut shell, are very similar to Hull's. Poor coaching, too big a turnover of players, and no obvious long term plan. Both clubs need to work out what kind of club they want to be, and what they want to achieve, and start planning towards this. Instead they seem to change their philosophy every other year and sign players for no apparent reason who just don't fit the model.

One thing Hull have going for them is that we have a handful of young players who (hopefully) won't be going anywhere anytime soon and we can look to build a team around them. Abdul, Sneyd, Watts, Taylor etc. I'm not an expert on who Rovers have ready to break through, but I don't see many guys of the same mould there. Your most exciting talent is from overseas and probably won't stick around long term.

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "The irony there is that all of that stuff (apart from the semi final talk) could be spun around and applied to your club. Getting Sheens involved is the first sensible thing Koucash has done since he took over.

I think Rovers' problems, in a nut shell, are very similar to Hull's. Poor coaching, too big a turnover of players, and no obvious long term plan. Both clubs need to work out what kind of club they want to be, and what they want to achieve, and start planning towards this. Instead they seem to change their philosophy every other year and sign players for no apparent reason who just don't fit the model.

One thing Hull have going for them is that we have a handful of young players who (hopefully) won't be going anywhere anytime soon and we can look to build a team around them. Abdul, Sneyd, Watts, Taylor etc. I'm not an expert on who Rovers have ready to break through, but I don't see many guys of the same mould there. Your most exciting talent is from overseas and probably won't stick around long term.'"


Can't disagree with a lot of that and with the merged academy I struggle to see how this can be moulded to lead into what could be 2 very different types of club.

In answer to the bottom bit we had a handful of young players Watts, Taylor etc unfortunately Taylor became the Raheem Sterling of rugby league icon_biggrin.gif

Seriously though I think Walker (if the current issue goes away), Green and if we could get hold of Greenwood on a permanent then we'd have the crux of a good pack that would just need an old head impact player or 2 adding. Shame that Cox doesn't look to have what it takes. Ollet could make a good 2nd rower if he bulks a bit, Dixon needs to play he can be exceptional. Not sure if Salter is more than a good back up.

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Poaching was the one in HDM saying at beginning of season he will sort out our defence.????

SACK HIM..........SIMPLE

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