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30596_1286642206.jpg If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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| Quote: Sandra The Terrorist "but has he ever been to Scotland?'"
Doesn't need to, he has a ginger beard surely thats enough?
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30596_1286642206.jpg If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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| Quote: K-Diddy "Doesn't need to, he has a ginger beard surely thats enough?'"
Good point, if he drinks a can of Irn Bru that's pretty much citizenship granted.
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| Really pleased for Rhys. Well done.
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| Wonder if he'll feel the same sort of pride/honour as the Scottish born Scotland players will ...
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| Quote: ☺East-Sard☺ "Wonder if he'll feel the same sort of pride/honour as the Scottish born Scotland players will ...'"
Someone needs to get Jack Wilshere's thoughts on the RL world cup.
Surprised (only mildly!) that in light of all this idiocy in pansyball over Januzaj playing for England, that rugby has not been brought up.
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| Quote: hull smallears "Someone needs to get Jack Wilshere's thoughts on the RL world cup.
Surprised (only mildly!) that in light of all this idiocy in pansyball over Januzaj playing for England, that rugby has not been brought up.'"
As the World has got smaller, concepts of nationality are becoming more fluid. A fair few countries have emerged or disappeared in our lifetime too. RL adopts the approach it does out of necessity, but it is the way things are heading, I reckon. You only have to look at Tongan-born Lesley Vainikolo playing League for New Zealand and Union for England. Kevin Pietersen, John Barnes, Mo Farrar and so on.
Di Stefano played for Argentina, Colombia and Spain, Kubala for Czechoslovakia, Hungary and Spain (plus Catalonia), so it's not even all that new.
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| Quote: hull smallears "Someone needs to get Jack Wilshere's thoughts on the RL world cup.
Surprised (only mildly!) that in light of all this idiocy in pansyball over Januzaj playing for England, that rugby has not been brought up.'"
Love this nonsense debate. Like it matters where your parents or grandparents had it off.
Poor Januzaj scores a couple of goals says nothing about international football. Being the off spring of Kosovan refugees and consequently his relatives have suffered whilst every twit destroys the land they are on claiming it as there own he should have some concerns on the concept of nationalism. They then flee the place and no one wants to know them and there's outrage because some twit on match of the day suggests he could be eligible for England. How has he become the focal point for a debate on national identity.
I don't get nationalism. Destructive idea. That said international rugby of both codes is a joke as you can play for different countries even after having played for one. You should pick a country your eligible for and not be allowed to play for anyone else.
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| Quote: Burtons Forearm " You should pick a country your eligible for and not be allowed to play for anyone else.'"
I agree with that - with allowances made for countries that disappear. A few did the USSR-CIS-Russia/Ukraine etc thing (same with Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia), through no fault of their own.
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30596_1286642206.jpg If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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| If your country splits as in Czechoslovakia and the Former Yugoslavia you should be able to play for both/all, but only in a disguise.
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| Quote: Sandra The Terrorist "If your country splits as in Czechoslovakia and the Former Yugoslavia you should be able to play for both/all, but only in a disguise.'"
A tache when playing for Czechoslovakia and no tache for Yugoslavia should do for an adequate disguise.
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| Quote: hull smallears "Someone needs to get Jack Wilshere's thoughts on the RL world cup.
Surprised (only mildly!) that in light of all this idiocy in pansyball over Januzaj playing for England, that rugby has not been brought up.'"
My actual point was that last year he apparently distanced himself from ever representing England, stating the pride/not being born in Eng - Aus routes etc. He's now suddenly Scottish 'again'. Indeed, according to a poster who spoke to him directly last year, he would never represent Scotland either. Hum.
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| I'm with Jack Wilshere on this one .
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| Im happy for Rhys tbh but my wider view thinks its typical RFL again like with Rangi.
It must be remembered Rhys was picked for Scotland for the 2008 WC also but never got to play so he and them do have history.
Its a joke nowadays this national stuff but then again RL is a joke sport.
All my own personal opinion mind as ever !
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| Quote: PAC "Im happy for Rhys tbh but my wider view thinks its typical RFL again like with Rangi.
It must be remembered Rhys was picked for Scotland for the 2008 WC also but never got to play so he and them do have history.
Its a joke nowadays this national stuff but then again RL is a joke sport.
All my own personal opinion mind as ever !'"
Its not the game of RL that's a joke, rather it's the people at Red Hall who supposedly run the game imo.
The sport itself is a fantastic product.
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