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I fear that this can only lead to one strong and one weak club in the city. One will get the cream, the other will not. There must be a master plan somewhere in this, but I'm buggered if I can understand it
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| Quote: Rural Robin "I fear that this can only lead to one strong and one weak club in the city. One will get the cream, the other will not. There must be a master plan somewhere in this, but I'm buggered if I can understand it'"
Me either at the moment but the clubs must have been working on a structure for some time in relation to this idea so as you say, there must be a master plan in place.
It will be interesting to hear what the clubs actually announce with regards to the fine details.
Apparently its something that other super league clubs are also looking at implementing in the future. |
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| Very confused by this one also. Can see that it would be cheaper for both clubs, but don't see how it will work in practice.
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| Quote: Seventies red "Me either at the moment but the clubs must have been working on a structure for some time in relation to this idea so as you say, there must be a master plan in place.
It will be interesting to hear what the clubs actually announce with regards to the fine details.
Apparently its something that other super league clubs are also looking at implementing in the future.'"
at the moment there are 2 teams in each of the underage categories. Surely reducing this to 1 wont increase the talent pool? |
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a draft system will be used to allocate players to each club. What If there is an out and out superstar, which both clubs want, what will happen then?
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It will be like picking sides at school, with the fat lad and the weakling left at the end. ( and so no one gets upset....I was the fat lad)
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T mc has backed it on Twitter and said the blueprint may be used in London and Cumbria. London, yes that would work, but the Cumbria sides have always maintained their independence and for them it could only work to form a single super league side with the others as feeder clubs or it simply wouldn't work, and that would be as welcome to them as it it to us
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What happens if Hull have 1st pick and they pick a talented player who doesn't want to go to Hull FC or vice versa?
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Only winner here in my mind is the Hul and district amateur leagues it means there won't be two clubs raping the youth system ,it would be even better if they brought back reserve team leagues the kids aren't serving there apprenticeships any more you can't learn off lids your own age the 16s play together then move up to under 19 how can you learn off kids your own age. There is too bigger gap from under 19 to superleague and the idea of dual registration is not working
You must have some old heads on the pitch with these kids on the front line teaching as they play. Never mind marque players spend the money on youth start reserve grades again this is the answer
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It's no coincidence Leeds saints Wigan are the top sides in the country when they invest heavily in there academy's and they breed a winning culture and mentality into there young lads so they are ready to step up to the 1st team, if both hull clubs ain't interested in doing that and want each other to foot half the bill then we will both be where we are now for a very long time
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| Quote: easthull4 "Only winner here in my mind is the Hul and district amateur leagues it means there won't be two clubs raping the youth system ,it would be even better if they brought back reserve team leagues the kids aren't serving there apprenticeships any more you can't learn off lids your own age the 16s play together then move up to under 19 how can you learn off kids your own age. There is too bigger gap from under 19 to superleague and the idea of dual registration is not working
You must have some old heads on the pitch with these kids on the front line teaching as they play. Never mind marque players spend the money on youth start reserve grades again this is the answer'"
Beat me to it, I agree 100%. each year around 50 young kids go into the youth setup at both our clubs very few make it & the clubs only require one or two of the very best if they actually need any at all (they only need so many to make a up team numbers) . Most of the youth players are lost to the local sides as they don't for various reasons go back to the local league. To my way of thinking the clubs should run a reserve grade & put a lot more effort into the local sides by the way of coaching & assisting with promotion of the game through schools using their star players to draw the kids in to the game, this will benefit everyone reduce cost's a little. |
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Quote: Beverley red "Beat me to it, I agree 100%. each year around 50 young kids go into the youth setup at both our clubs very few make it & the clubs only require one or two of the very best if they actually need any at all (they only need so many to make a up team numbers) . Most of the youth players are lost to the local sides as they don't for various reasons go back to the local league. To my way of thinking the clubs should run a reserve grade & put a lot more effort into the local sides by the way of coaching & assisting with promotion of the game through schools using their star players to draw the kids in to the game, this will benefit everyone reduce cost's a little.'"
That bit at the end is probably what they should b merging, if anything is to be merged. Investment in grassroots & participation numbers.
I'm involved in junior RL in Leeds, so I'm not fully clued up on the junior setup in Hull, and the Rhinos have it spot on.
The Leeds Foundation over the past 18 months or so have been supporting local sides in setting up U7's teams. From none, they now have around 7 clubs with an U7's, and they're setting up a new one tonight: https://twitter.com/farnley_falcons.
They regularly run master classes with Brian Mac for local coaches, offer a great support network, and also help with fundraising.
This is what both clubs should be putting their efforts into, not some ridiculous merged academy. |
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Quote: Beverley red "Beat me to it, I agree 100%. each year around 50 young kids go into the youth setup at both our clubs very few make it & the clubs only require one or two of the very best if they actually need any at all (they only need so many to make a up team numbers) . Most of the youth players are lost to the local sides as they don't for various reasons go back to the local league. To my way of thinking the clubs should run a reserve grade & put a lot more effort into the local sides by the way of coaching & assisting with promotion of the game through schools using their star players to draw the kids in to the game, this will benefit everyone reduce cost's a little.'"
That bit at the end is probably what they should b merging, if anything is to be merged. Investment in grassroots & participation numbers.
I'm involved in junior RL in Leeds, so I'm not fully clued up on the junior setup in Hull, and the Rhinos have it spot on.
The Leeds Foundation over the past 18 months or so have been supporting local sides in setting up U7's teams. From none, they now have around 7 clubs with an U7's, and they're setting up a new one tonight: https://twitter.com/farnley_falcons.
They regularly run master classes with Brian Mac for local coaches, offer a great support network, and also help with fundraising.
This is what both clubs should be putting their efforts into, not some ridiculous merged academy. | |
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I have grave doubts about this and I worry that hull kr will get shafted by hull fc over talent
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