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Love a good stat me, but this doesn't paint a pretty picturehttps://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player?season
7 of the top 20 worst offenders for missed tackles! And Sandy moans about refs. Get a grip man.
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You only need to look at the amounts we have conceded each match this season to see where the problem is, conceded over 30 points in more then half our games.
Leeds 34
Wakefield 10
Saints 36
Warrington 42
Widnes 0
Bulls 36
Catalans 20
Huddersfiled 22
Castleford 36
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4 of the top 6, as well. Quite impressed we've managed 7 league points, looking at that.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "4 of the top 6, as well. Quite impressed we've managed league 7 points, looking at that.'"
1 more then at this time last year  It took Rovers 12 games to pass 7 points! |
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| Quote: Mild Rover "4 of the top 6, as well. Quite impressed we've managed 7 league points, looking at that.'"
I had us down for 8points going into easter, wasnt far off. Bearing in mind everyone thinks were playing below par im fairly confident we can turn this around and turn the 2nd half of the season well in our favour. |
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I think people are dissapointed bacause in a couple of games we have thrown away winning leads of over 10 points, we could easily have been on 11 points and in 6th place if we had closed those games out.
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Aye, if we could tackle we'd be ace!
Sorry to go O/T slightly - but I looked at some other stats, and Sam Tomkins is really ripping it up this year.
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Con Mika has been disappointing in all areas recently.
Needs to up his game IMO.
24 missed tackles in his 8 games so far, and he's being spelled too.
I know stats aren't everything and it's a bit harsh comparing him to Newton, but he only missed 22 tackles last year and was an 80mins larker most of the time.
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| Quote: SirStan "Love a good stat me, but this doesn't paint a pretty picturehttps://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player?season
7 of the top 20 worst offenders for missed tackles! And Sandy moans about refs. Get a grip man.'"
you could probably forgive lovegrove for been on that list |
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'Its like the jungle out there, only the strong survive and the weak get killed off and that's whats happened in Hull. They'll run to the end of the season then that's it, they'll be gone, there will be no more Hull Kingston Rovers there's no room for them.'
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| Quote: fun time frankie "you could probably forgive lovegrove for been on that list'"
Missed tackles cost points. Yes he makes a lot, but if he makes 30 and misses the one that costs us a game winning try.. Obviously everybody misses tackles, but i dont think that making more gives you more of a right to miss them than anyone else. If he's missing them because of fatigue due to the defence he is being asked to do then the coach is partly to blame as well as he shouldnt be playing the full 80 as what is effectively a defensive workhorse if he is missing a lot of tackles. Either give him a break, or give someone else his defensive role for a period of the game to even it up |
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| Quote: Mild Rover "www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_club?season
Comparing last year's team stats to this, is a bit misleading. Given our change from compressed down the middle tactics last year to this years, more spread approach. None the less, we conceded too many soft tries last year and are conceding too many soft tries this year - so neither approach worked/working.
I guess we need to work more on Plan C which should involve looking after possession better and have more control of the games. Under JM we did this very effectively and a lot of the times, we saw games out when we were in winning positions in the second stevo stanza. We ground teams down if you like. Under CS we do look like we're trying to score from every attacking opportunity and force unnecessary plays. Maybe if we adopt JM's favourite "build the frepping pressure" approach, we can get more control during these tight games and hopefully see them out better.
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You can't win if you can't tackle, I'm pretty sure we were high up in the missed tackles last season too. Maybe our players just have bad tackling technique.
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If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
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What's defence?
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