Some are already gone...you have more than a couple right...and need a spot for Atkin.

And that squad would certainly see us in the middle 8's yet again either way.

I think and hope tim knows what he is doing lets leave it to him

26,000 posts=1 sad bustard

Shaw reminds me of Jamie foster when he looked great at saints but never found next level.competent but not stand out. Saying that Talanoa has done ok with similar ability. Our team has suddenly started to look decent in forwards and outside backs but same issues remain in half's. Ellis has more natural ability but Abdull has consistently performed and trimmed down . attitude looks spot on.The real issue is us as a team going into a season desperate for promotion with 2 main pivots loan players who aren't deemed good enough for their respective teams to play in the league we are aspiring towards.We need a real general more than anything else. Ideally a half and a Fifita type if we signing 2 more but a Dobson/Chisholm style half is the final piece I think

Also nice His Bobness posting again .Welcome back

Hope we keep Abdul. Masses of potential. Up to now second for player of the year behind Lunt who has been outstanding.
Abdul was our best player at Leigh and went well at Salford. He is a running half back (12 tries this year and plenty of breaks).
I get the disappointment of not seeing Oakes more in the first team. However he's played first team and looked good. He's 18 and needs protecting. Sheens has coached and developed some of the games greats (Clyde, Stewart, Marshall etc). I think he knows what he's doing.