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It's a little boring isn't it?

We're about eight weeks from the start of the season and it all looks pretty predictable.

I think almost all of the permutations of predictions that the posters have posted are possible.

As an aside, I'm loving that sentence.

We're going to finish about eighth or ninth, shake up some teams at CP and get ed on the road. I'll be stupid enough to go to the majority of those games and spend my Sunday evenings in a foul mood.

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Quote: Paul T - HKR "First of all, I don't mind you calling me 'deluded' even if it is disrespectful, because it seems to me you need to be 'having a go' at the moment.

I disagree with you when you say Rovers are behind where they were at this time last year; can I remind you, beaten handsomely by 'Fax, thrashed by Warrington (40-0) and struggled to beat a very poorly prepared Fc (Radford OUT followed that knee jerk result).

I didn't 'conveniently' fail to mention Cas, I purposefully 'leapfrogged' Warry into the 5. I hope Cas do push on but I feel Warry's recruitment will see them regain a top 5 spot.

For the record I do honestly and realistically believe 8th is achievable. If last seasons table is anything to go by SEVEN points separated 6th from 11th, and more astoundingly 10-14 matches were LOST by teams finishing 5th to 11th. To me that demonstrates how tight the dogfight will be.

I know it looks as though the teams in the dogfight have recruited better than Rovers, but for me, even as it stands at the moment, the core of the team is intact, underperforming as one would expect at this stage of pre-season, Campo and Lunt will be back sooner rather then later, it isn't as bad as people want to make out.

Deluded, not at all, just putting the trial games into perspective and looking at the bigger picture. . .in my opinion.'"

A well constructed post. I like the bigger picture perspective you believe you are adopting. It tends to be the route I go down normally. As a Rovers supporter since 1966, I have learned a couple of things. Never take anything for granted in sport and never write off the Red and White.

Sadly, I disagree with you on what that bigger picture is at the moment.

If you equate me "having a go" to me "venting my frustration", then yes Guilty as Charged. That said, the glaring defensive frailties we displayed all too commonly last season with this group of players have well and truly resurfaced. Don't you feel we even deteriorated in this regard week on week from the Huddersfield performance, if that's possible? Given that this was known to be our Achilles heel last year, we have a right to expect a modicum of improvement in the off season and a stiffer defensive resolve.

All will be revealed in 2 weeks time against Cas. If it's the same old, same old, the bigger picture will mean 1000 off our gates for the foreseeable future, a season of financial struggle, a bottom 4 SL finish and I hope a change of coach. For my part, I desperately hope this does not turn out to be the case.

Finally, I didn't mean to be disrespectful. I was just telling it like it is imo, as we do round here.

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Quote: Pickering Red "A well constructed post. I like the bigger picture perspective you believe you are adopting. It tends to be the route I go down normally. As a Rovers supporter since 1966, I have learned a couple of things. Never take anything for granted in sport and never write off the Red and White.

Sadly, I disagree with you on what that bigger picture is at the moment.

If you equate me "having a go" to me "venting my frustration", then yes Guilty as Charged. That said, the glaring defensive frailties we displayed all too commonly last season with this group of players have well and truly resurfaced. Don't you feel we even deteriorated in this regard week on week from the Huddersfield performance, if that's possible? Given that this was known to be our Achieves heel last year, we have a right to expect a modicum of improvement in the off season and a stiffer defensive resolve.

All will be revealed in 2 weeks time against Cas. If it's the same old, same old, the bigger picture will mean 1000 off our gates for the foreseeable future, a season of financial struggle, a bottom 4 SL finish and I hope a change of coach. For my part, I desperately hope this does not turn out to be the case.

Finally, I didn't mean to be disrespectful. I was just telling it like it is imo, as we do round here.'"


Like you, and perhaps everyone else, I am at a loss over Rovers substandard defence. At times it beggars belief.

Let's hope priority (at last) is placed on this area, in particular around the PTB area. IMO this is where the main damage is being done, and seeing so many Rovers players on the ground in that area is bordering on criminal.

Is it the players fault or the coaching staffs, I don't know and TBH I don't care as long as they fix it and fix it sooner rather than later.

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Quote: Paul T - HKR "Like you, and perhaps everyone else, I am at a loss over Rovers substandard defence. At times it beggars belief.

Let's hope priority (at last) is placed on this area, in particular around the PTB area. IMO this is where the main damage is being done, and seeing so many Rovers players on the ground in that area is bordering on criminal.

Is it the players fault or the coaching staffs, I don't know and TBH I don't care as long as they fix it and fix it sooner rather than later.'"


I'll give you a clue......poor coaching and poor recruitment.

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Quote: Burtons Forearm "I'll give you a clue......poor coaching and poor recruitment.'"



Coaching and Recruitment, thats ironic, those were the 2 areas I really thought Peacock would improve you guys. He's so respected in the game I thought he'd be able to work the oracle in convincing players to come. I also thought he would influence the defensive part of Rovers game but I haven't seen that just yet. Maybe he's just not had enough time ?

But look, the season is long. You win now't in January and maybe Peacock isn't involved in any coaching activity ? I don't know ?? So best we just wait and see how Chessy and Poching fixes you up.

Its a good thing you know where you are now rather than with 6 games to go, and when the grounds are bit harder then your lighter pack may start show. On Sunday we did run over you a bit but we were hot and you weren't. You'll get better thats for sure. Are our derby friendlies really a good marker for the rest of the season ? I think not.

Its a long season chaps, no-one knows how your going to go, all you can do is get behind your team and make the noise you always do.

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Quote: Uppo58 "Coaching and Recruitment, thats ironic, those were the 2 areas I really thought Peacock would improve you guys. He's so respected in the game I thought he'd be able to work the oracle in convincing players to come. I also thought he would influence the defensive part of Rovers game but I haven't seen that just yet. Maybe he's just not had enough time ?

But look, the season is long. You win now't in January and maybe Peacock isn't involved in any coaching activity ? I don't know ?? So best we just wait and see how Chessy and Poching fixes you up.

Its a good thing you know where you are now rather than with 6 games to go, and when the grounds are bit harder then your lighter pack may start show. On Sunday we did run over you a bit but we were hot and you weren't. You'll get better thats for sure. Are our derby friendlies really a good marker for the rest of the season ? I think not.

Its a long season chaps, no-one knows how your going to go, all you can do is get behind your team and make the noise you always do.'"


Minns Thornley and Mulhern look good players. However the rest ain't convincing. We needed to recruit to certain positions and haven't despite the obvious evidence of last season.

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