good game today 2 well matched sides our pack just shaded it best of luck for the rest of the season

I don't think anybody has in this case been offended, I think we've all just discussed this as Internet friends, which can only be a positive.

Apart from a few people who are clearly looking to get a rise out of someone.

Cracking good post and basically says in a briefer way what I wanted to say in my earlier “sermon”.

Someone mentioned Bangladesh, North Korea and Love the Neighbour all extremes of the 3 issues I blame for a national loss of reasonable perspective.

Personally I am not an extremist, but I am getting peed off by those in this country who hijack these ideologies and push their boundaries beyond acceptable limits to distorted extremes.
There are umpteen examples and they are multiplying by the year. Where would you like me to start? With hindsight, best not as this thread will break the page record for off topic rants.

Back to yesterday's game. Just seen it in full on Hull KR TV.
First half, we were poor and lacked urgency and line speed. Most Widnes forwards made a good 5 metres after first contact. Unforgiveable. The penalties we conceded were dumb (note - homage To Shaun Wane).
Josh Mantellato try disallowed for forward pass was harsh. He was behind Charlie who was right on the 10m line when he threw the pass running at speed. Mantellato caught the ball with arms outstretched on or around 9.5 metres from the line.Try every day in my book, despite my bias.
What followed from the resulting scrum was the game breaker. Donaldson taking out Hanbury 5m from the try line from Campese's high kick 2 mins from the end. Dumber than dumb.
Should have won. Didn't deserve to though. Hope we learn from it.

All of that is pretty much spot on as regards my thoughts at the game.

Donaldson's foul on Hanbury was really unfortunate. The kid had worked so hard to get there and then he just got over exuberant, if he'd taken a very slight step back he would have the opportunity to drive him behind the line.

I thought we lacked any sort of control and direction throughout the game. Our first half kicking game was probably the worst so far this season. Too many times, we were going sideways and seemed to lose our direction and our set up play on the 5th was a bit erratic, with the ball ended up being forced to Kelly or Campese under pressure. End result nothing kicks caught on the full, too easy for Widnes backs and who made easy yards. That seemed to be the trend all half. A lot has been made about lack of go forward down the middle so far, but it has been the norm in every game imo esp away. At Wire we found away around them, Wakey we just never clicked and at Widnes a lot of sideways play that Widnes by in large nullified. I know and appreciate our resources were stretched on Sunday, but having the normal 3 and sometimes 4 tackles taken up by the backs isn't going to get us on the front foot from our own half. I know it's the norm for the backs to do the early clearing work, but it did seem to me, that they were doing more than normal in the first half.

I did think we were on the end of some consecutive harsh calls at times and Widnes profited on the back of these, but this was more than 'evened up' (if you like) in the second half so can't really complain. When we were forcing the game and running our plays towards the end. I think we may have been better served looking to go towards Sio instead of Mantellato. We worked a few opportunities/space for Josh, who maybe 100%'ter - but he doesn't have raw pace or the same finishing ability of Sio.