Unless we can get some passion back in the team and pride in the shirts 2015 is going to be another long season!

But we need to give Chris Chester and Willie Poaching the off season and let them try to change the mentality of the players and allow the lads coming in time to settle before we get too depressed, with a new look back line and time to put his stamp on the squad I think we will come good.

Maybe I am the eternal optimist, and this will come back to bite me, but I think we will at least be more competitive next year! and I do think in 2015 we will make the top 8!

Does anyone feel a bit cheated out of their money after watching the pies/wire game last night?
I was slightly envious of them fans watching what was a pulsating match, and comparing how much their season passes are compared to ours.

It's not like that every week for both them clubs, have you got sky? Or have you read the posts on these clubs boards? It's business end of the year & certain teams can find another gear/level & compete.

I've watched plenty of games this year, and read message boards. And yes, I know teams cant play to that level every week. All I was saying is the fans of most the top 8 clubs have watched some good rugby this year, and I'm envious that their fans have paid more or less the same as us for what is (in our case) an inferior product.

Start supporting Wigan then? I'm staying with the biggest rugby league club in Hull, (FC)