Wigan - World Club Challenge runners up and SL champions 1998, 2010, 2013.
Leeds Rhinos - World Club Challenge Winners 2005, 2008, 2012. SL Champions 2004, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012.
Huddersfield - Current League Leaders Shield holders.
St Helens - One of the best squads in the competition, marked out as the most likely to win the competition. Numerous title holders and won plenty in their recent history.

So 4 games we have played so far and against some of the best sides in the competition. We have matched these sides for a large portion of these games and our most recent defeat to St Helens was only totally lost in the final 7 minutes.

Yes those "Tools" Craig has brought in are not brand new and have experience but as with any old and used tools they will be a bit rusty and have certain ways they like to be used. The user of those tools, and in this case it is Sandy, he has to work out just what works and what doesn't work with these tools he's brought in.

It is clear for all to see that our frailties are out wide, these in the majority are not new tools to the club but have the very same problems that Craig tried to replace down the middle. Money only goes so far and by improving the middle he's been forced to make do with the old backs that make poor defensive choices and have numerous brain explosions.

So what does he do to address this? He's brought in an international winger who in his first appearance made the very same mistakes our own squad members do, so is the problem the centre? My answer is yes but who is out there that could go to centre and fix us up? Do we have the finances available and under the salary cap to bring in two new centres that can add to our defence while not losing anything going forward?

If we can do that then there is no need to replace the coach because the problem can be fixed by bringing in new 'tools' if we can't bring in new players then again why replace the coach? Justin Morgan couldn't improve the defence out wide what is to say any other coach could improve it with this crop of players?

The one question a board should ask is, do the players want a new coach for the rest of the season? Sit down one to one or have a ballot box for them all to cast their vote secretly. If the players are happy to stick with the devil they know and are prepared to take the fall themselves for their poor performances then I firmly believe we should get behind Craig and give the players the support they all need. If the players feel they'd be able to give more to someone else then I'm happy for the board to ask Sandy to leave and bring in someone the players feel is good enough for the job.

Craig came over with a reputation that I don't think he will have lost back in Australia. He's worked with some of the best in the business and they all rate him highly and would probably have him on their staff once more so I doubt he'd be without a club for long.

I don't think he will take us to be champions but I do think for this season at least he deserves to be kept in the role unless as stated the players need someone else to get better out of them.

We all knew we would miss Dobbo. But i never realised how much we relied on him! Keating is gash, and needs to follow Sandy out the door. Would rather see Beharell given a chance.

think that's a bit harsh tbh, obviously he isn't dobbo, but I've seen enough to say he will be a very good signing. some good balls for the tries against wigan, a well taken try yesterday, not the perfect kicking game yesterday but most of the time Bradford were coming out from their own 10 pinning them in, so hardly kicked poorly. I think we played the conditions well yesterday, spectacular it definitely wasn't but a wins a win.

Give him a chance,had a decent game yesterday and kicking was average,but scored a good try and will only get better,was one of our better players against wigan,dont get like our duller friends and start looking for a scapegoat.

By his comments about him on The Super League Show Matty Smith obviously doesn’t agree with your assessment of Keating. But then again what would he know he only played against him

I've said on the other forum I can see sandercock been here a long time, however possibly in another role. He strikes me as someone who would make a very good director of rugby, overseeing the rugby side of the club from top to bottom with a first team coach in place such as Chester or Webster