Understand that, sorry I should've been more specific... I've been out here for 2 years and watched him play a lot until he was dropped (every game's on telly etc), I'd summarise it as he's basically a hooker not a half, great defence and can scoot but really lacks insight/vision and ball playing skills. He's a good player by SL standards don't get me wrong, but is the opposite of a replacement for Dobson and Rovers will need a completely new attacking system in order to make this work - and can that happen with the other resources we've go? Bear in mind the Doggies were running a radical offence last year with Graham, Big Frank etc running structured second man moves as dummy 5/8ths in the forwards, so they did very well without an organising stand off or 1/2... But it was interesting to see Canterbury struggle at the start of this season with Jaws Graham out and defences more ready for that system. There was no Plan B because of KK's style not plugging that creativity gap - hence Des changing his 7 a few games into this season.

Dobbo on the other hand was always known as a great ball skills 1/2 with a good kicking game, but defence and running game wasn't rated which is why he didn't cut through, it's not like Canberra didn't see what he had and it took the move to SL to reveal it. I'd rather Rovers picked up an organising 1/2, but like I say that's not to say KK can't be effective in the right role.

Putting the red and white tinted glasses on here so no doubt will be shot down but there is a part of me that’s quite looking forward to seeing HKR without Dobbo (as long as we get someone else in). Dobbo has been fantastic for us and I’ll never say any different but had we come as far as we could with him. For all the positives, and there were many, the negative of Dobbo is that it all goes through him and we are very predictable. It was often said ‘stop Dobbo, stop HKR’ and I can see that tbh. The other thing is I’m not sure Dobbo could adapt to not having everything going through him.
I don’t think we need to get in a new Dobbo, but a different approach may see us be able to kick on a bit. If as you say KK is more a hooker type 7, then that may mimic how Leeds play, and lets be honest they’ve not done too bad have they…

Forgive my ignorance

1 Warrington
2 St Helens
3 ?

Widnes?

Yep, and add to that Wigan and there are 4 clubs inside a 12mile radius of each other, so basically 4 in an area the size of Hull.

Bloody hell someone who looks to the future like me. Next season teams will not see Dobson so will be scratching their heads a bit.

My thoughts on your recruiting is that Sanders is taking a leaf out of Wayne Bennett's book and is looking to shore up your defence. Wayne seems to think that you build a rock solid defence and cut down the mistake rate and the attack will come on the back of the amount of ball you will get. Getting rid of Pato, Mika and Dobson, who are all weak at defence or have a low workrate in defence and replacing them with three strong and enthusiastic defenders in Costigan, Weyman and Keating will make you a very different side. I don't know anything about the rest of your roster, but I imagine the off season will be spent working on defensive structures mostly.

wow I just really hope next season we win something, make it the year of the robins. I say this cos in December my mum died suddenly and my dad got confirmed to have vascular dementia. but he loved going when able to see hull kr even though he was born in wakey. well yesterday he got called up to heaven to play rugby with flash Flannigan so I just want to say I am very happy with how kr have gone about recruitment and hope we have some good times ahead

Nearly there, wrong Hull club.

Pleased he's not coming to us, looked average every time I've seen him, wouldn't mind getting Lynch in though

Quelle surprise