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| Quote barham red="barham red"Bit of a silly post really, just because Leeds have won x titles and Warrington have won the CC a couple of times doesn't mean their HBs are better (not saying they're not BTW). The balance of their sides is better, the team as a whole is miles better.
If London signed Thurston and an in his prime Lockyer as 6 and 7 but kept the same pack and backs they wouldn;t win the GF.'"
So you dont think putting Sinfield alongside Dobson would improve your team, the worlds number 1 player and all that? Personally cant stand Sinfield but dont doubt his ability to drag Leeds out the mire as he does so very often. (For what its worth I'd have him at Hull any day of the week and twice on a Friday) The halves are the heartbeat of the team and have a massive influence on a teams performance and balance, so in answer to your second question, London with Thurston and Lockyer at the helm would be well up their challenging for honours though probably not winning things.
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| Quote djcXIII="djcXIII"So you dont think putting Sinfield alongside Dobson would improve your team, the worlds number 1 player and all that? Personally cant stand Sinfield but dont doubt his ability to drag Leeds out the mire as he does so very often. (For what its worth I'd have him at Hull any day of the week and twice on a Friday) The halves are the heartbeat of the team and have a massive influence on a teams performance and balance, so in answer to your second question, London with Thurston and Lockyer at the helm would be well up their challenging for honours though probably not winning things.'"
Sinnie is not a half back better at 13
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| Quote gingerspice="gingerspice"Sinnie is not a half back better at 13'"
Also, barham red didn't ask a question, nevermind two questions. So, what second question are you answering?
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| Quote dum-dum="dum-dum"Also, barham red didn't ask a question, nevermind two questions. So, what second question are you answering?'"
What ur deliberately trying to confuse me
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| No I was adding to your point about Sinfield being a 13, read the rest of it's post.
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| Quote dum-dum="dum-dum"No I was adding to your point about Sinfield being a 13, read the rest of it's post.'"
Nope I'm not getting it at all
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| Quote djcXIII="djcXIII"So you dont think putting Sinfield alongside Dobson would improve your team, the worlds number 1 player and all that? Personally cant stand Sinfield but dont doubt his ability to drag Leeds out the mire as he does so very often. (For what its worth I'd have him at Hull any day of the week and twice on a Friday) The halves are the heartbeat of the team and have a massive influence on a teams performance and balance, so in answer to your second question, London with Thurston and Lockyer at the helm would be well up their challenging for honours though probably not winning things.'"
So in essence I was correct, you agree if London had Thurston at 7 and an in his prime Lockyer at 6 they probably wouldn't have won 6 titles or 2 CC's. SO unless you're saying that HB pairing wouldn't be the best then it proves you can have the worlds best HB pairing and not win anything.
Unless you have good backs and a good pack adding to good HB's then you wont win things. The pack lay the platform, the backs run the lines, yes you need the backs to finish it but the team that wins things doesn't necessarily have the best pairing.
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| Green is going well at Wigan. MOTM in is last game.
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| Quote The_Mighty_F90="The_Mighty_F90"Green is going well at Wigan. MOTM in is last game.'"
Good for green pleased for him never let us down,we got super duper burns 
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| Quote barham red="barham red"So in essence I was correct, you agree if London had Thurston at 7 and an in his prime Lockyer at 6 they probably wouldn't have won 6 titles or 2 CC's. SO unless you're saying that HB pairing wouldn't be the best then it proves you can have the worlds best HB pairing and not win anything.
Unless you have good backs and a good pack adding to good HB's then you wont win things. The pack lay the platform, the backs run the lines, yes you need the backs to finish it but the team that wins things doesn't necessarily have the best pairing.'"
Apparently you weren't asking questions so not sure I should respond (or would that be pedantic!!) but I guess deep down I'm agreeing with you with an added caveat that you can have the best pack and set of backs but without the half backs to bring it all together you won't win jack. A world class halfback will lift a team to greater heights, on his own, than a world class prop would. Thinking Peter Sterling at Hull and Brett Kenny at Wigan in relation to Les Boyd at Warrington
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| Has anyone heard the Dobson to Saints rumour? Would seem a bit odd.
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