After this season making the top 8 will be more important than ever - failure to do so puts you in the middle 8 mini league and a battle for Super League survival.

Probably in time those making the top 8 will be viewed as the only 100% bona fide Super League clubs.

So I don't think we should turn up our noses too much at 'only' making the top 8. Personally I take a little bit of satisfaction that we have achieved this 5 years out of 7 it gives us a little bit of status beyond the annual strugglers. Though I accept it's not going to bring fans flocking in and we do need to have loftier ambitions.

I think we probably will get there again but I wouldn't stake my mortgage on it. We are currently 10th and there are no more than 3 or 4 teams we could realistically have a chance of overtaking.

I think things do look much more encouraging now than 2 or 3 weeks back. Keating has proved that he does have plenty to offer and the forwards have shown a bit of the menace we were hoping for. We will need to see how they get on in the forthcoming games against Warrington, Hull & Catalans we will know better after that.

There are at least 11 decent teams this year so it's difficult but I do think that our low point for the season is behind us.

I'm not getting carried away Stan but after Sunday it has made me take notice of the nrl more just to see who are the probable teams we will be playing in the wcc next season

It will all get very interesting...

What will?