All i say des johnson kiss my you cumbrian fodder.

at the moment we have no where to bring a player through, how ever, We have some great local youth teams, barrow island u16 (last year) undeafeated - county cup and local league) since under 8's in the league
3 of whom are now at sl level. which would happen. but these players still watch barrow , and are fans of barrow, they have just taken the highest offer, BUT if we were in SL locals would stay, we would have a youth system , and things would be better .
at under 15s alone, (meaning last years 14's) we had from the barrow and district leauge (our feeder league)
1 saints scholor
around 5-7 haven trial blaizers scholars,

ooh, why are celtic after andy then?
and quins after nixon may i ask?

shame having a good local U16 team doesn't tick a box! pmsl

Fax have the best amateur team in Britain (SIDDAL) do you think that will help get us into s/l?

3 of whom are now at sl level - what successful 1st team players or just in the academy like many others please??

ooh, why are celtic after andy then? - becuase they are not considered a successful team/club and will not attract quality
and quins after nixon may i ask? - same sort of answer, ---didnt saints buy Ade Gardner and develop him further from there? thats a quality product - so no, celtic and London I would consider the same as Barrow

unless you that Neiva to think just being in SL makes you successful? There is plenty of crap trying to perform at this level – last thing we need is another embarrassment to our sport, and the whole licensing initiative – which is a fantastic trailblazing idea and a pioneering one for sport in the UK – so if you ever get in SL what will you contribute apart from a nice and pleasant drive through some lovely countryside?

So, again what do you constitute as producing high performance players that will be successful at both SL and international please?

I no for a fact 2 of the 3 are england internationals one at leeds and the other at warrington , does this calabre of player suit you sir , as super league material !

jounior interntaionals? if so no as the championships (1&2) are full of them such as Max Wiper I think he is called -

so what Constitutes producing a successful SL player? In your opinion – because you still haven’t ……there is a story in here somewhere?

You cannot explain it because you cannot and have not ever done this – there is nothing unique about junior intonations – feth area produce 3 per-year and we are a village and you have nothing coming out like Westerman, Burrow etc but we don’t clam them as our products because SL nurtured them well.

Have you got it yet?

some one must get a note to these lads , they may as well pack in playin as they will never make it , hope youve played the game with all ur knowlage of whos going to make it an who isnt ; or r u just a specky , wishing it was you in there position !

Just an enthusiastic specky – as you are, but was a junior international and SL academy player now in the Parra’s sort of asking questions about other speckys assumptions – short of thing, if you like. Shame if the pack in playing if they are not going to the make it to the top, as it is a great game, but sort of sad if their playing for all them extrinsic and unpredictable things like making the big time….any way enough of this

What in your opinion constitute to producing a successful SL player….PLEASE?

It's just daft to think that ANY championship club can churn out endless SL quality players. To have a SL standard youth structure that is going to work, you need to be in SL. It's stupid for the RFL to expect Championship clubs tobe able to compete with even the likes of Salford/Celtics in this area.

Any SL quality youngsters produced by Champ clubs are snapped up in no time - therefore money wasted. If the players can stay at a club and go from scholarship to SL then the chances are they would stay at the club.

Barrow need to get a youth structure in place, but need a successful team on the field first in order to 'tick the box'.

] Glad you’re not running any club

its not about money or RFL systems - have you got the know-how to nurture young players, if so my question was about producing successful SL players, which was the start of the thread - I can understand your views too or do you believe that it will all just fall into place because you have a very good team –

but sadly no plan B or a succession plan by the look of it – the reason for my concern is we don’t need another embarrassment like Celtic and just because your cumbrian (which we need) and you have a good team (because of a benefactor rather then performance merit) you will get a franchise!

There’s no doubting you support both morally and physically but it’s not a ship, it needs foundations and that’s my point and stop avoiding the question LOL

No team bar Widnes can claim to have an established youth structure in the Championships. Even Widnes only field a small amout of locally produced player - and that is at al level below SL.

Halifax don't even run a reserve team which at least Barrow do. The Barrow reserve team has many young players taken from the local amateur clubs as well as first team fringe players. We also have the newly established 'Barrow Laikers' under 18's team, co-ordinated by the Raiders. The club in general is VERY strong in the community/schools/colleges. Dave Clarke with his other hat on, does great work in those departments all year.

Having a superb (expensive) youth structure at the expense of a stronger first team defeats the object. It's chicken and egg. Get a good team on the field first, increase crowds/sponsorship and THEN introduce a defined structure. Otherwise all your talented, nurtured young players will simply leave for a SL club.

I believe there is a big announcement due after the GF from the Barrow BOD defining the next 3 years objectives. Expect something to be announced then.

After you lot lose on Sunday ,your egoistic chairman ,will take his ball home and you will struggle next season ,you are going nowhere ,SUPER LEAGUE?Blackpool have more chance ,CMON FAX ,BEAT EM .

You just keep on thinking that mate. I remember reading very similar 'doom-laden' posts 3 years ago. We'll be stronger again next season - put your mortgage on it. We're here to stay.

Just like Fax, we've ticked the box, so this season is just the start. One things for sure though, we've far more chance of getting to Super League than YET ANOTHER Yorkshire club. Until 1 or 2 current Yorkshire SL clubs are booted out no other Yorkshire club has a chance of getting in. Just read the RFL's views on expansion.

Should be a good game on Sunday. Can't wait.

Barrow need a s/l ground and pull of top 3 finishes for next few years.

2015 application more realistic (if the above are met) IMO.