The headline in the RL Express is "Dons pay for ill discipline."
The Dons gave away 15 penalties ... no doubt in part to them having to defend so much.

He said he would cut this out ... he's not doing a very good job is he?

One game won in four super 8 games and that was nearly lost as well.

Pretty poor record thus far.

My point still remains ... how is this an improvement on GT?

So we are losing by fewer points but spending 70% of games defending.

But wins are rare, clear wins are non-existent.

It is the players who give away the penalties .
What can I do .....that is what GT said to me at the away game at York .

RH has a big job on his hands he has got to make them more professional or get rid of the offenders . He cannot do that until the end of the season .

If I was guessing man, which I am, I would say that his hands will be well tied financially after this season.
A season when there is no correlation between financial input and material output.
I don't think the Rovers will want to continue throwing good money after bad.

And to claim there is little he can do if players continue with ill discipline is really not on.
If GT said that then really he shouldn't be a coach.

The Dons are continually harping on about having a large mainly fit squad ... and he can't identify the main culprits of indiscipline and drop them until they see sense or heaven forbid coach them in ways to minimise said ill discipline.

What's he there for then?

GT did say that I assure you . RH on Workington www.doncasterrugbyleague.co.uk COYD

GT did say that I assure you . RH on Workington www.doncasterrugbyleague.co.uk COYD

Standoffish sounds like your average football fan. A new manager comes in and if he doesn't produce instant results he has to go. That's a recipe for instability and disaster. Any new manager has to be given time, and enough of it, to achieve those results. As has been noted, and is obvious in matches, discipline is a problem and needs to be addressed. Horne has acknowledged this and is no doubt working on it. As soon as opposition teams sense that discipline is lax they will do their best to provoke situations which will test that discipline. One thing that is needed is a cool head on the pitch to manage the discipline. Normally you would expect that to be the captain but I'm not sure that Kyle Kesick is the best person for that role.

Why? And I would probably blame a player that was actually in Workington on Sunday.

I am neither average nor a football fan.
But thanks for talking about me in the third person ...

Yes a coach needs time to prove himself or show he is useless.

Just how many games is that?
He has had quite a few this season ... more than GT possibly who was sacked when going for fourth place.

RH is safe as long as we cling to 5th and a play-off berth.

Otherwise it is just goodwill and the Hull connection that is in his favour.

Standoffish I didn't say you were average or a football fan - just that you sounded like one. And I referred to you in the third person as I was addressing the forum. As far as Kesick is concerned it is irrelevant whether he was in the squad yesterday. My point was that as the captain I don't think he would be the right person to oversee discipline on the pitch as his own record in that respect is dubious. I would not, however, doubt his heart and commitment.

Fair play ...

It's much nicer and friendlier to address specific posts and posters directly than talk about the poster as though he isn't in the room.
But that is just my view.

Players need to step up - headline from today's Free Press sports section. www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/spo ... -1-8714005

Players need to step up - headline from today's Free Press sports section. www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/spo ... -1-8714005

There is a bigger issue here I think, in recent years we have had several seasons which have been written off due to "poor recruitment" several different coaches have been blamed for this, PC, GT and now RH 66% of which have paid the price for failure.

The one season we had success was when PC was allowed to sign the players he wanted, and we had some decent half backs.

I do wonder if the coach is making all the signing decisions we will seemingly sign anyone Craig Harrison pushes our way (good or bad) so they can use our club as a stepping stone to sign for an SL of Championship club (Groat/Clark).

To me, there has been a common factor in the past few seasons of disappointment which has been the upper levels of the clubs management and the joining up with club Doncaster. No one feels the need to question the people ultimately responsible for the current failings of our club, this season is a write off for me, lets hope we start next season better without a continued reliance on being a feeder club of Hull.

A settled side with a good mix of youth and experience (quality and prospects) performing well week in week out will bring the crowds back. I am not convinced by RH as our head coach not for his ability to coach it's more that he's not fully our coach he's still working with Radford at Hull and surely his full focus cannot be on us as a club were a "side project". The day before an important game for us he was sat in the stands with Radford coaching a challenge cup semi......

Other clubs in our league manage it and we supposedly well backed by "Club Doncaster" so let's be that and be Doncaster not Hull Reserves.

Steve you raise some valid points . I am not a Dual Reg fan but we had 1 Hull loan player in the 17 v Workington .
Give RH a fair chance .

COYD

There are indeed some issues in Steve's post that IMO are very valid. Player recruitment being one of them, we do seem to be on the same treadmill season after season.

I also now go along with this season being dead, it died last Sunday IMO. The complete failure to get any points from that crucial game as left us with an extremely difficult run in and the prospect of only one win to come.

We may have only had one DR player, but recent announcement seems to imply that the French lad is here to get ready to be a Hull FC player as he's signed for them and has been playing for their reserves. I think RH would make a decent coach if he was 100% our coach or maybe even 75% our coach but he's clearly 75% Hull 25% Donny, its that imbalance I have an issue with. I am aware GT worked full time away from being our coach to but least it wasnt for another RL club, surely there are going to be some conflicts of interest, what happens if we draw Hull FC in the cup??