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It's all right saying that the moaners will say the bubble will burst, it'll all go wrong.
It already has, we are playing in the third tier and not looking good for promotion from that, despite being told that super league was the aim and that we had the best playing budget we'd ever had and to wait for the big name signings the season before, can you really blame fans for not buying into the dream anymore when certain people need to wake up and smell the coffee

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I don't class myself as an eternal optimist, neither do I consider myself to be a grim pessimist. I like to think of myself as a realist.

If the club's aim is to get into Super League, we don't want to be hanging around in this division. We needed to put a squad together that was good enough to get promoted this season. The longer we stay in this division, the more the core Dons' fanbase will disappear. People lose confidence in the club and find different things to do on match days. It's hard to win them back.

On the other hand, teams in this league won't rollover and let you win. They want to progress and better themselves too. I believe the club and coaching staff are working hard to achieve the best they can with what we've got. I think the fundamental problem is that we've not got enough quality and class within the squad to make us believe we have more chance of going up than not. With our defensive frailties, I consider we're certainly underdogs to go up. I would have hoped by this time in the season, I'd be thinking we'd be unlucky not to go up, rather than thinking we'll be lucky to go up.

We're still in there with a chance and we've got to do everything we can to make sure we're at our best for the important games to come.

For me, the biggest single issue is that we seem to have made the same mistakes this season as we did last season. We've under-estimated the strength of the opposition. The thing that worries me if we don't go up is that our better players will leave due to getting better offers elsewhere, and we'll be left to start all over again.

As fans, I think the only positive contribution we can make is to get behind the players and encourage them to do their best and hope things go our way through to the end of the season.

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Having watched the tries it looked like some very tired bodies
In defence for the last few tries.

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if you read Gary Thornton's take on the Toulouse game it really does make you wonder.
He reckons that just about all of the Toulouse tries, particularly in the first half came as a direct result of Dons' cock-ups (my words not his).
Gary, Gary Gary ... you're not just a spectator, you can intervene.
The mind boggles!

The Dons on a match day are the players and YOU.
You can't treat and blame the players in isolation, take some responsibility.
If they are failing, so are you.

Harsh?

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To be fair, from memory all the Donny tries came from silly mistakes or slackness in defence also.

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Quote: sanjunien "To be fair, from memory all the Donny tries came from silly mistakes or slackness in defence also.'"

Which verifies what he says ...we must be slow learners then as it happens nearly every game.
I know rugby isn't an exact Science and that mistakes will be made however much you try to eliminate them, but the term 'silly mistakes' points to stupidity rather than unavoidable mistakes.

Mind you, this type of thing normally happens to sides under pressure ... perhaps we can't handle pressure very well.
My overriding ethos would be play as team and think about your actions before you let your teammates down.

It does rile, when folk are saying that but for stupidity and clumsiness we could have beaten Toulouse.
That is just not being an outfit with a professional approach.

Anyway nothing seems to change on that front ... no use moaning about it!

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i think he meant silly mistakes & slackness in the Toulouse defence, for Dons to score

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Yes, exactly my point. Mistakes in the Toulouse defence allowed Donny to score most of their points. The French coach was livid his team had let in five tries. All in all a game of errors which probably made it so entertaining !

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Quote: sanjunien "Yes, exactly my point. Mistakes in the Toulouse defence allowed Donny to score most of their points. The French coach was livid his team had let in five tries. All in all a game of errors which probably made it so entertaining !'"

I didn't read it right, I feel a bit better ... but not much icon_smile.gif

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Toulouse shouldn't lose a game which means keighley. York. Rochdale dropping points. We should win our next 4 with only rochdale that should give us a scare. Then York and keighley have to play each other you would assume one team would lose.
The top 4 target looks in the bag to me

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Can you get me one of those bags please?

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Quote: Stand-Offish "Can you get me one of those bags please?'"


You can't buy these bags for 5p you know.

They cost faith and support in yhe team icon_eek.gif

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The table as it stands with matches left:

Toulouse 9 17: New A, Kei H, N Wal A, York H, Lon A
Rochdale 10 17: New H, Hem A, Kei H, Dons H
York 9 15: Hun H, Oxf A, Glou H, Tou A, Kei A
Keighley 9 14: N Wal A, Tou A, Bar H, Roch A, York H
Dons 10 14: S Wal H, Lon A, Hem H, Roch A
Barrow 10 13: Lon H, Hem H, Kei A, Oxf H
London 9 10: Bar A, S Wal A, Dons H, Glou A, Tou H
Hunslet 10 10: York A, Cov H, Newc H, S Wal A

The best outcome for the Dons is if Toulouse beat Keighley and York. Toulouse could end up 27 points.

The best we can do is 22 points if we win all four, and 20 points if we lose to Rochdale.

If Rochdale lose to Toulouse but beat the Dons, they will have 23 points. They’d finish above us. If we beat Rochdale, they only have 21, and we’d be above them.

If York lose to Toulouse but beat Keighley, they will have 23 points and we can’t catch them regardless of whether we beat Rochdale. If they lose to Keighley but we beat Rochdale, we would be above them.

Keighley have the toughest run in. N Wales away, Toulouse away, Barrow at home, Rochdale away, and York at home means it’s hard to predict their finally tally as they’re on 14 points at the moment. If we get 22 points, they’d need to win four of those games to match us. If we lose at Rochdale, then three wins could catch us.

Barrow have 13 points. They look to have an easier run in apart from Keighley away. If they won all four, they’d have 21 points, which wouldn’t catch us if we win all our remaining games but they could if we lose at Rochdale.

The potential banana skin for us is the London game. We really can’t afford to lose that one. Should we lose that one and lose at Rochdale, 18 points probably won’t be good enough for fourth, although mathematically it may be if Barrow only won two of their last four (17 points) and Keighley only win one of their last five (16 points).

Points difference could play a part. We need to make sure we put plenty past S Wales and Hemel.

Of course, this is only the posturing for the last 7 games. As long as we finish in the top five at the very end of the season, we’re in the play-off mix.

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Quote: tollbarutility "You can't buy these bags for 5p you know.

They cost faith and support in yhe team
I'm a scientist, I don't do faith ... science is evidence based, faith is just hope.

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