That is his position .

So what’s Owens position then prop forward, you play them where they do best for the team

What should he have done? Got the shepherd's crook and dragged him off? If we'd then lost the game because we'd got someone on the wing who isn't a winger, or if we'd then got no subs left and got another injury, he'd have equally been declared an idiot. He can't win really, can he?

Yeah get off his ass and tell him to man up and stop giving the ref grief.
That's what!
Is that so hard?
Or he could sit on his ass and let Owen be a prima Donna.
He took that option.

Tony Fisher and Singe would have got the message onto the field.

Do you live in a parallel universe?

A coach is a coach not a bleeding spectator!

I don't think you can play owen anywhere else than full back, he's played numerous seasons with the number 1 jersey at super league level and his reading of the game and positioning are still to that standard, you might be right in saying miloudi fancies himself as a full back but somebody with that talent needs to see the ball more often.

Spot on!
Which takes me back to my original observation ... of Horne not knowing what he is doing.
Or being a Hull puppet.

And to DM ... the people near me all could see that Owen was being a whimp and a problem and said so ... so not just me.

Owen was giving the timekeeper some signals near the end of the game.
Why?
Because he knew he had jeopardised the outcome.

Our discipline is still rubbish and Horne has not changed that ... but maybe he has in your world.

He is still the man playing Muranka and Boyle.
I have had better Boyles on my backside!

Are you wired up to Richard Horne? How do you know what was and wasn't said?

I'm not condoning Owen's actions at all. He was completely out of order. I am questioning how you know what Richard Horne did or didn't do, or say, in response to it.

My god there is more talking carp on this forum
It’s no wonder no one uses it very often. There are more armchair coaches than there is members.

A very interesting outcome.

The first half yesterday felt very flat, almost as if something wasn't quite right.

The first 20 / 25 minutes of the second half were much, much better. One major disappointment was the occasions of giving away penalties whilst in possession (cardinal sins).
But another win and two more points in the bag are a positive result.

It didn't stop you though.

I am going on the fact that Owen had been whinging at the play the ball every time he was tackled ... to the extent that he was actually slowing down our attack by not playing the ball.
I saw no action taken ... now if we had a captain?

It does though and a lot more it’s all doom and gloom I must of posted 3-4 times in all. And that was to comment on the crap that gets posted