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| Difficult to disagree with any of that SO but to contemplate dropping Foggin-J for example isn't positive. He had a cracking game against some decent players but I think the coach should give him licence to be more adaptable to get into the game more instead of hugging the touchline for 80 minutes (ok, so I exaggerate but you get the idea ?). He does need to bulk up like so many (Kriouache a few years back at Toulouse and Pelissier at Cats for example) and that needs the coaching staff to sort this out. You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear but a good coach will get more from his squad. I've no idea if GT is the answer but I feel he should have at least another season to try to get more from his squad and strengthen where possible. Makali did ok saturday but youth has to be allowed to come through..
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| Quote: sanjunien "Difficult to disagree with any of that SO but to contemplate dropping Foggin-J for example isn't positive. He had a cracking game against some decent players but I think the coach should give him licence to be more adaptable to get into the game more instead of hugging the touchline for 80 minutes (ok, so I exaggerate but you get the idea ?). He does need to bulk up like so many (Kriouache a few years back at Toulouse and Pelissier at Cats for example) and that needs the coaching staff to sort this out. You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear but a good coach will get more from his squad. I've no idea if GT is the answer but I feel he should have at least another season to try to get more from his squad and strengthen where possible. Makali did ok saturday but youth has to be allowed to come through..'"
Can't fault that.
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| Quote: askernlad "
I don't think we would to be honest.
We are being promised Superleague level football unless I am missing something.
You are right that we should wait and see if we do well in the playoffs, but you have got to compare us to Toulouse, Rochdale,
York, Keighley and Barrow.
We have beaten two of them, which is OK.
We are OK ... that's it so far.
Won 7 lost 3 us not very clever in this league though.
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| It's all right saying that the moaners will say the bubble will burst, it'll all go wrong.
It already has, we are playing in the third tier and not looking good for promotion from that, despite being told that super league was the aim and that we had the best playing budget we'd ever had and to wait for the big name signings the season before, can you really blame fans for not buying into the dream anymore when certain people need to wake up and smell the coffee
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| I don't class myself as an eternal optimist, neither do I consider myself to be a grim pessimist. I like to think of myself as a realist.
If the club's aim is to get into Super League, we don't want to be hanging around in this division. We needed to put a squad together that was good enough to get promoted this season. The longer we stay in this division, the more the core Dons' fanbase will disappear. People lose confidence in the club and find different things to do on match days. It's hard to win them back.
On the other hand, teams in this league won't rollover and let you win. They want to progress and better themselves too. I believe the club and coaching staff are working hard to achieve the best they can with what we've got. I think the fundamental problem is that we've not got enough quality and class within the squad to make us believe we have more chance of going up than not. With our defensive frailties, I consider we're certainly underdogs to go up. I would have hoped by this time in the season, I'd be thinking we'd be unlucky not to go up, rather than thinking we'll be lucky to go up.
We're still in there with a chance and we've got to do everything we can to make sure we're at our best for the important games to come.
For me, the biggest single issue is that we seem to have made the same mistakes this season as we did last season. We've under-estimated the strength of the opposition. The thing that worries me if we don't go up is that our better players will leave due to getting better offers elsewhere, and we'll be left to start all over again.
As fans, I think the only positive contribution we can make is to get behind the players and encourage them to do their best and hope things go our way through to the end of the season.
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| Having watched the tries it looked like some very tired bodies
In defence for the last few tries.
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| if you read Gary Thornton's take on the Toulouse game it really does make you wonder.
He reckons that just about all of the Toulouse tries, particularly in the first half came as a direct result of Dons' cock-ups (my words not his).
Gary, Gary Gary ... you're not just a spectator, you can intervene.
The mind boggles!
The Dons on a match day are the players and YOU.
You can't treat and blame the players in isolation, take some responsibility.
If they are failing, so are you.
Harsh?
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| To be fair, from memory all the Donny tries came from silly mistakes or slackness in defence also.
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| Quote: sanjunien "To be fair, from memory all the Donny tries came from silly mistakes or slackness in defence also.'"
Which verifies what he says ...we must be slow learners then as it happens nearly every game.
I know rugby isn't an exact Science and that mistakes will be made however much you try to eliminate them, but the term 'silly mistakes' points to stupidity rather than unavoidable mistakes.
Mind you, this type of thing normally happens to sides under pressure ... perhaps we can't handle pressure very well.
My overriding ethos would be play as team and think about your actions before you let your teammates down.
It does rile, when folk are saying that but for stupidity and clumsiness we could have beaten Toulouse.
That is just not being an outfit with a professional approach.
Anyway nothing seems to change on that front ... no use moaning about it!
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| i think he meant silly mistakes & slackness in the Toulouse defence, for Dons to score
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| Yes, exactly my point. Mistakes in the Toulouse defence allowed Donny to score most of their points. The French coach was livid his team had let in five tries. All in all a game of errors which probably made it so entertaining !
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| Quote: sanjunien "Yes, exactly my point. Mistakes in the Toulouse defence allowed Donny to score most of their points. The French coach was livid his team had let in five tries. All in all a game of errors which probably made it so entertaining !'"
I didn't read it right, I feel a bit better ... but not much
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| Toulouse shouldn't lose a game which means keighley. York. Rochdale dropping points. We should win our next 4 with only rochdale that should give us a scare. Then York and keighley have to play each other you would assume one team would lose.
The top 4 target looks in the bag to me
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| Can you get me one of those bags please?
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| Quote: Stand-Offish "Can you get me one of those bags please?'"
You can't buy these bags for 5p you know.
They cost faith and support in yhe team
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