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Quote: Danensian "Richard Horne hasn't been in the job long enough to be considered in those terms. I don't necessarily subscribe to the common view which has developed in football that a group of players belong to a previous coach/manager and therefore must be replaced wholesale before an incoming manager/coach can be expected to make progress. There may be the odd player who doesn't fit in for whatever reason but in general professional players should be able to adapt to a new coaching style and a professional coach should be able to get what he wants from the players on hand. Rugby is a team game and the success of the team is not measured by the quality of individual players but by how they come together as a team and interact.

That is where the coach's skill comes in. One of the most successful football coaches was Brian Clough. His ability to take a group of fairly ordinary players in individual terms and turn them into a team capable of winning the then European Cup and then (with one or two significant additions to the squad) successfully defend it speaks volumes for his personality and methods. Bill Shankly at Liverpool was another who achieved a similar thing a couple of decades earlier.

So let us give Richard Horne time to establish himself in the job here and hopefully mould a team which will be better than the sum of its parts. The Dons are still in a play-off position and, given reasonable luck, will still be there after this weekend's round of matches. That we are in this uncertain position is disappointing to all of us and is entirely the fault of the players who largely could not stick to a plan and who's indiscipline lost us games which we should have won.'"


Good post.
But I disagree about the statement that RH hasn't been in post long enough to judge him ...
He will be given time ... I am still saying he should have shaken this team up and had them winning by now.
On that he has failed.

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Hally , I have had a little break to consider your criticism of me & I will try to take them on board.
You make some good points as do others about Club Doncaster . Please try & not have digs at people who you do not agree with you .

We all feel passionate about DRLFC .

COYD

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Quote: Moonshine "Was this neccessary, really? Call a bloke out for his enthusiasm and turn into an attack and post about his Family in such a way JC on a bike what is this board becoming. I take it that the warning from one of the Mods does not apply to certain folk.'"


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Maybe my attitude would soften a little towards Carl, if he did away with the embarrassing dug out.

I cant believe that Doncaster Rovers for one minute would allow Gavin Baldwin to vent his frustration on a public forum, on a weekly basis about the team, the fans and Rovers finances.

I'm sure when Carl came up with the idea of the dugout he thought it would be a light hearted way to get himself in the spotlight and promote the club,..... which I have know problem with.
But time and time again the" Arh well " quote is rolled out and questions are diverted or only partially answered .

We know you cant tell us who earns what and who we are looking to sign, but there are certain relevant questions you can answer but choose not to.
If you don't like the questions then PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, knock this tripe on the head!!!!!!!!

We all have our own opinions about how the club is run , Carl's will differ from the fans as he has a different perspective and sees things behind the scenes which we as fans are not privy too.
All we as fans ask for is a little honesty and some accountability.

Yes its been a poor year after all the hype and expectation , however I am sure CH would be better thought of if he carried the can every once in a while.

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Good post KLD.

In the Dugout was a good idea as it should help us to all come closer to together but for the reasons you mentioned, it's not working. It creates a sense of frustration that people's concerns aren't really being listened to or dealt with.

I thought the last couple of editions had been somewhat better as Carl was admitting that on-field performance targets had been missed. These things can't and shouldn't be brushed under the carpet.

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Quote: weighman "Hally , I have had a little break to consider your criticism of me & I will try to take them on board.
You make some good points as do others about Club Doncaster . Please try & not have digs at people who you do not agree with you .

We all feel passionate about DRLFC .

COYD'"

It's alright sweet cheeks I forgive you, so now that you've come to your senses can we now get on with saying how e we are and blaming carl for holding us back? lol

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I am not sure I like the new hally , you forgive me , hope that was said tongue in cheek .




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Think when your a week away from turning 40 you start seeing things differently! I can still call you a happy clapping stooge if you want me to?

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I will carry on posting , just consider 1 thing , you think I am a happy clapper BUT you do not know what I have said to CH in e mails & in person .

No doubt we will debate things when the season is over may be 5pm Sunday afternoon .

You do not need to get personal to make your point .

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Quote: hally's hot air "Think when your a week away from turning 40 you start seeing things differently! I can still call you a happy clapping stooge if you want me to?'"


Happy birthday Hally. I'm nearly 59. When you get to my age you can't even remember the names you were called yesterday! icon_lol.gif

Seriously, it's good to have more posters on here. It'd be boring if we all thought the same. It's nice to have a debate so we can all appreciate each other's points of view.

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Quote: Double Movement "Happy birthday Hally. I'm nearly 59. When you get to my age you can't even remember the names you were called yesterday! That's very kind of you sir, really looking to the birthday next week as i'm running dangerously low on socks and lynx! Your dead right different opinions can be healthy, some people want success right now and others can see the bigger picture and are prepared to wait but the end of the day we all put our hard earned cash over the turnstiles and we all suffer when we lose.

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Happy birthday Hally. Let's hope the Dons give you a double reason to celebrate. I'd better not say how old I am but it is a bit more than DM has confessed to lol

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I have come to the conclusion the profile of the average Donny fan is :

Around 60
Seen better days
Grumpy
Never satisfied
Still has a poster of David Noble and Paul Cooke on the wall
An understanding missus
Totally bonkers
Paid up member of the CH appreciation society, when we win.....

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Quote: Danensian "Happy birthday Hally. Let's hope the Dons give you a double reason to celebrate. I'd better not say how old I am but it is a bit more than DM has confessed to lol'"

So without giving anything away if Toronto were to score the amount of points which equate to your age you wouldn't be a happy bunny?

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Quote: hally's hot air "So without giving anything away if Toronto were to score the amount of points which equate to your age you wouldn't be a happy bunny?'"


Quite right I wouldn't be. They just managed to beat me in the home match. However if we manage to top the Toronto score by just a drop goal then I'll accept any number of points for them. I sincerely hope that the Dons defence will be more switched on tonight and make a game of it.

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