Not the most convincing performance .

We weren't great today but we're top of the league.

The brand of rugby we're playing is exciting to watch. We've got some issues that need sorting out but the other 13 teams in the division will have issues too - probably a few more issues than we've got in most cases.

As far as I'm concerned, Richard Horne is doing a very good job and I've got every confidence in him getting the best out of the players we've got. Take Jordie Hedges, for example, he's like a new man this season.

Yeah that idiot.
He has little control over his players if they can kick off like Owen did for instance and does NOTHING about it to the point that the game could have been lost.
Were you there?

He's weak seemples as ....

When we play anyone good we struggle.
Today we played a middle of the table side and struggled.
They looked a better balance than us.
I don't think he knows how fragile we are.
And if he does, apart from cadging Hull players he has little to offer.

And I forgot to say how rubbish our scrum half has been in the last two games ... he needs a the 'idiot' to have a word.

Without the Hull lads we would be very ordinary.

I wasn’t there as away on holiday but is miloudi being played at full back on Hulls orders as that is where they need him ??

That is his position .

So what’s Owens position then prop forward, you play them where they do best for the team

What should he have done? Got the shepherd's crook and dragged him off? If we'd then lost the game because we'd got someone on the wing who isn't a winger, or if we'd then got no subs left and got another injury, he'd have equally been declared an idiot. He can't win really, can he?

Yeah get off his ass and tell him to man up and stop giving the ref grief.
That's what!
Is that so hard?
Or he could sit on his ass and let Owen be a prima Donna.
He took that option.

Tony Fisher and Singe would have got the message onto the field.

Do you live in a parallel universe?

A coach is a coach not a bleeding spectator!

I don't think you can play owen anywhere else than full back, he's played numerous seasons with the number 1 jersey at super league level and his reading of the game and positioning are still to that standard, you might be right in saying miloudi fancies himself as a full back but somebody with that talent needs to see the ball more often.

Spot on!
Which takes me back to my original observation ... of Horne not knowing what he is doing.
Or being a Hull puppet.

And to DM ... the people near me all could see that Owen was being a whimp and a problem and said so ... so not just me.

Owen was giving the timekeeper some signals near the end of the game.
Why?
Because he knew he had jeopardised the outcome.

Our discipline is still rubbish and Horne has not changed that ... but maybe he has in your world.

He is still the man playing Muranka and Boyle.
I have had better Boyles on my backside!

Are you wired up to Richard Horne? How do you know what was and wasn't said?

I'm not condoning Owen's actions at all. He was completely out of order. I am questioning how you know what Richard Horne did or didn't do, or say, in response to it.

My god there is more talking carp on this forum
It’s no wonder no one uses it very often. There are more armchair coaches than there is members.

A very interesting outcome.