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| Quote Wilf Grimshaw="Wilf Grimshaw"In nearly every walk of life Steve its the same, media, politicians, agenda pushers.'"
Don't forget 'influencers', Wilf. You know, that bunch of people who have no talent but persuade people what they ought to be thinking. Turd polishing is the skill that is in most demand these days!
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| Quote Wilf Grimshaw="Wilf Grimshaw"
This the post from Rob Terrace ( Rob Clayton?) that started the thread rolling
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Rob Terrace is the photographer & statistician. Rob Clayton used to be the game day announcer.
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| Quote Wilf Grimshaw="Wilf Grimshaw"Appreciate that, Its not everyone's cup of tea.
This the post from Rob Terrace ( Rob Clayton?) that started the thread rolling
Something that someone messaged me about, which, I managed to do, as I've been doing some work on the stats stuff recently.
Its not meant to prove a point, moreover, just provide something for discussion.
Since 17th June 2017, when Richard Horne took charge, 140 matches, 88 victories, 48 defeats and 4 draws. 1 Victory was a "Walkover", when West Wales forfeited.
7 of his first 12 matches (the remainder of his first 'season') were defeats, with 1 draw in that time.
Thats a win rate of 62.8%, which, would put him at being one of the most successful Dons coaches in the clubs history.'"
Thanks, Wilf. Most Dons' coaches haven't been lucky enough to work in a league that has at least 50% 'also rans'. Measuring success solely by win rates is interesting but I'm not sure it's a very good way of assessing 'skill'.
I was in awe of what John Sheridan did but I suspect his win rate probably isn't anywhere near as good as Richard Horne's.
I'd guess the man with the best ever win rate is Ellery Hanley.
Nice stats from Rob Terrace though.
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| Quote Wanderer="Wanderer"Rob Terrace is the photographer & statistician. Rob Clayton used to be the game day announcer.'"
Thanks Gary, Rob (Notts Forest) Terrace. Glad I put in the question mark. 
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| Quote Double Movement="Double Movement"Thanks, Wilf. Most Dons' coaches haven't been lucky enough to work in a league that has at least 50% 'also rans'. Measuring success solely by win rates is interesting but I'm not sure it's a very good way of assessing 'skill'.
I was in awe of what John Sheridan did but I suspect his win rate probably isn't anywhere near as good as Richard Horne's.
I'd guess the man with the best ever win rate is Ellery Hanley.
Nice stats from Rob Terrace though.'"
Yep the argument for wins success under RH is obviously statistically up there, but on a personal basis I loved Tony Fishers and Singes teams, must have been the fire in their bellies.
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| The teams put together by John Sheridan, Tony Fisher & St John Ellis were my favourites to watch.
Mention of Ellery Hanley always stirs up mixed emotions in me. I always considered him the best British player I'd ever had the privilege of watching ... but ... for me that interview at Warrington (28/09/2008) seconds after promotion to League One destroyed any fondness I might have had for him as a coach.
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| Quote Wanderer="Wanderer"The teams put together by John Sheridan, Tony Fisher & St John Ellis were my favourites to watch.
Mention of Ellery Hanley always stirs up mixed emotions in me. I always considered him the best British player I'd ever had the privilege of watching ... but ... for me that interview at Warrington (28/09/2008) seconds after promotion to League One destroyed any fondness I might have had for him as a coach.'"
Yes, I've never felt such extremes of emotions in the same day as I did on that occasion.
The three you've named are legends. I suppose I have a particular fondness for John Sheridan as he was the first person to show Dons' fans we could be more than a basement club with no hope.
The day I heard of Singe's death was earth shattering. I could not believe it.
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| We've been competing with the likes of (no disrespect) west wales, london skolars, cornwall so does that win percentage still look fantastic???
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| Quote Kick and chase="Kick and chase"We've been competing with the likes of (no disrespect) west wales, london skolars, cornwall so does that win percentage still look fantastic???'"
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| They factored that into the maths apparently and yes the stats are still "Great" as Tony the Tiger would say!
Currently the debate for discussion is my match attendance being worse than Horne's win rate - I think they are clutching at straws now
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| Quote Wanderer="Wanderer"The teams put together by John Sheridan, Tony Fisher & St John Ellis were my favourites to watch.
Mention of Ellery Hanley always stirs up mixed emotions in me. I always considered him the best British player I'd ever had the privilege of watching ... but ... for me that interview at Warrington (28/09/2008) seconds after promotion to League One destroyed any fondness I might have had for him as a coach.'"
I agree but the interview and Hanley's departure was prompted by a certain Mr Harrison just dropping all support and walking away yet to this day we still seem to treat said Mr Harrison as some messiah who only gives us the best players.
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