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| Not sure what to write after that hammering, mid table, big gulf between us and Keighley and now most defiantly Swinton. North Wales have a strong unit and we will not beat them on current form.
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| Well what can you you say about this afternoons performance.
Congratulations to Swinton, they outplayed us and deserved the win.
Once again a poor performance by officials in our league, but not withstanding that, the referee shouldn't have been put in the position to issue a red card for dissent.
I won't name individuals but our one on one defence /tackling was pretty poor all game, our mistake count must have been huge.
Our kicking game was repetitive and predictable to defend against.
In my opinion it appeared right from the off a number in the team looked lack luster and were just going through the motions.
I don't know if it's structure, game plan, or poor decision making, but there needs to be a major shake up.
Very disappointing to be a Don's fan àfter that performance.
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| Swinton were good in attack but definitely looked vulnerable in defence. It'll be interesting to see how they go against the better teams in the league.
As for the Dons, the set restarts were a killer along with the sending off. Regardless of all that, we were second best by a wide margin.
Agree with Wilf, it's hard to take any positives from the last two defeats. We've definitely gone backwards from last year while the opposition seems to be somewhat better.
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| We were lucky....we were elsewhere and intended to travel 140 miles to watch...we decided against it.
Good job....
Being sent off for dissent is STUPID.
...officials aren't cheats and abusing them is pointless.
So well done Johnston...you gave the game away with your gob!
Two meetings with rivals...two poundings...very little structured play.
Take a bow Mr Horne...
If Corion can't tackle and can't score tries...I blame you.
Of any of the players is not up to muster I blame you....
You are the architect of this team and they are not at the races...
But eh, get behind the team, chill, give them a chance, and similar year in year out responses.
Not the player's fault...management's fault
Time they took the blame and resigned.
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| I said at the start of the season this team is not good enough to make the top five and I stand by it. Poor recruitment has left us looking at a season of drubbings.
People on the Supports FB page make me laugh with comments about signing local players ,nothing against the lad from Bentley making his debut but he was never at the races and was replaced after a ten minute spell. The quality is just not there locally anymore.
We have lost quality players like Douglas , Johnson and Beharrell and replaced them with amatures and players that have not pulled on a pair of boots in years.
I have seen nothing from Corian since he joined the club that has given me hope he will come good .
His tackling and positional play is way off the mark but we don't seem to have an alternative, the club need to act fast and get in to the loan market for some much needed quality or I fear our race will be run by the end of May.
Swinton's ruck speed was far to quick for us and our defense was left exposed by players struggling to make it back into the defensive line.
Their half backs and outside backs tore us apart.
Speed and support play at its best and you can see why they are the bookies favorites to go up .
We have two games coming up which we should win, however they are followed by two games against Oldham and North Wales which we must win to have any chance of making the play offs.
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| A good sum-up by KLD.
Swinton looked vulnerable defensively so I think the better teams will have a chance against them.
With regards to the play-offs, six out of 11 teams make it in our division. That's similar to 13 teams in Donny Rovers league making the play-offs!
But the Dons' challenge is made much easier by having West Wales, London Skolars and Cornwall making up the numbers. I'm not sure Midlands Hurricanes are candidates for a top 6 spot either.
Realistically, the are probably seven teams vying for six spots: Swinton, N Wales, Rochdale, Keighley, Oldham, Hunslet and the Dons. It would be incredibly disappointing if we ended up bottom of that pile but based on what we've seen so far it can't be ruled out.
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| Quote: Double Movement "A good sum-up by KLD.
Swinton looked vulnerable defensively so I think the better teams will have a chance against them.
With regards to the play-offs, six out of 11 teams make it in our division. That's similar to 13 teams in Donny Rovers league making the play-offs!
But the Dons' challenge is made much easier by having West Wales, London Skolars and Cornwall making up the numbers. I'm not sure Midlands Hurricanes are candidates for a top 6 spot either.
Realistically, the are probably seven teams vying for six spots
I think we missed Ollett- Hobson who was outstanding defensively against Keighley until he was withdrawn, and Greg Burn who I have been very impressed with since his move from the Seagulls.
We don't seem to have players capable of taking the step up when injuries occur, this will undoubtably cause us issues as the season rolls on.
With Hedges retiring , Burns and Misi out for the foreseeable ,Johnson with a ban coming and Boas still injured we are light on troops after only three games.
Hopefully a couple of good performance against, shall we say some of the leagues lesser quality sides will give us some much needed confidence going in to May
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| Just read Horne's latest rubbish about yesterday's game and it's the same old same old. I honestly don't know how he's got the nerve to keep repeating himself and getting away with it. He's had the job since 2017 and the club is going backwards. His decision making on recruitment is shocking and his game management even worse. He must have watched a different game to me. Still he'll keep his job cause getting rid of him would mean Club Doncaster parting with some money and as with the Rovers that is just not going to happen when the owners have no ambition or commitment. Aside from the Knights sport in Doncaster is dead in the water.
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| "Something must have been said to warrant the red."
Said Mr Horne....
Does this mean you don't know what was said?
Is this Boris speak?
He knows what was said but is not saying?
Jesus!
I would have carpeted Johnson and know exactly what was said....
Once again, how does Horne manage to dissociate himself from any blame?
He is sitting in the stand...he is not in Hull!
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| Quote: Stand-Offish ""Something must have been said to warrant the red."
Said Mr Horne....
Does this mean you don't know what was said?
Is this Boris speak?
He knows what was said but is not saying?
Jesus!
I would have carpeted Johnson and know exactly what was said....
Once again, how does Horne manage to dissociate himself from any blame?
He is sitting in the stand...he is not in Hull!'"
I understand a coach feels a duty to try to defend his players in public but in this instance Richard Horne ought to have said Johnston was out of order, let the team down and let the fans down, and that such unprofessional behaviour will not be condoned by the club.
I'm an admirer of the player. This may be out of character and a blip but it should still be called out for what it is. Maybe there's some politics at play? If the player admits to saying it, there may be a ban to follow. If he denies it, it may remain 'unproven' in the eyes of the disciplinary panel with no further action. I don't know.
Reflecting on the game, Richard Horne's request for a faster start will happen against Cornwall because man for man we will be better than them. Swinton didn't allow us to get off to a fast start because they dominated possession and played in our half whilst we kept giving away set restarts. Man for man they were better than us and that allowed them to get off to a fast start.
We'll get four points against Cornwall and W Wales, then crucial home games against Oldham and North Wales follow.
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| It doesn't matter what we do against Cornwall and West Wales ...because all our rivals will do the same.
It matters what we do against our rivals and that record is played 2 lost 2.....
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| Quote: Stand-Offish "It doesn't matter what we do against Cornwall and West Wales ...because all our rivals will do the same.
It matters what we do against our rivals and that record is played 2 lost 2.....'"
Very true....
In effect, we've got a proper season of 12 games (against Swinton, Keighley, Rochdale, N Wales, Hunslet and Oldham twice).
We're none from 2 with 10 games to go. I wonder how many of those games we'll need to win not to finish seventh of the seven?
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| Quote: Double Movement "Very true....
In effect, we've got a proper season of 12 games (against Swinton, Keighley, Rochdale, N Wales, Hunslet and Oldham twice).
We're none from 2 with 10 games to go. I wonder how many of those games we'll need to win not to finish seventh of the seven?'"
On Sundays showing I honestly think we will win a maximum of four of those 12 games.
I think we will catch a few sides out at home but other than North Wales we have never had good results away at the remaining clubs.
Its gonna be a long season unless we can get some loans in .
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| There was a comment made on the Facebook supporters page from a frequent poster that both Keighley and Swinton were nothing special. Lord only knows what the heck that makes our side. The Swinton scrum half on Sunday's showing must be one of the favourites for League 1 player of the Season.
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| Yes he looked very lively and creative....made Robbo look ordinary.
That is the kind of energy and organisation a side needs...and we lack.
Horne has got to be hindbound or he is truly crap...because what is needed for each position is pretty easy to see, despite what people involved in the game say we are not capable of seeing.
Yes different players can offer subtle differences...they say a certain player I think is poor in attack is great in defence...fair enough.
But your halves have to be livewires like Beryl, your forwards determined like Douglas etc...
If they are not why sign them?
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