I agree with everything you say RD, I'll add an extra controversial point maybe its time for the CEO to fall on his sword and let someone else have a go.

I genuinely think RH has given up on this season, and if he has it's easy for the players to follow suit.

After yesterdays game i'm sure most of the players have as well.

Both Gary Thornton and Paul Cooke's services were dispensed with for playing a more entertaining brand of rugby than we are seeing under Horne.
Four defeats from seven games is hardly promotion winning form is it.

Maybe Carl has asked the team to ease off on their promotion push as a jolly to Ottawa and New York could be on the card for next season , which looks a much better prospect than a wet weekend in Bradford or Featherstone.

I'd debate whether it was more entertaining under Thornton, generally speaking, but I get your point

With the exception of Kesick , Beharrell and Douglas the team looks average at best , maybe another coach would motivate this supposed promotion challenging squad to do better.

I believe our players are a lot better than they showed yesterday. I don't have that many objections with the core of our squad, we're just not getting the best out of them

Well RH needs to start getting the best out of them sharpish , London look to be playing good rugby with the addition of Wilkinson and a couple of Toronto players so it could be a case of us receiving a beating from three of the lesser sides in the division unless we drastically improve.

I can't believe the coach or players have in any way given up on promotion ... a tidy run would get us right back in the mix.
And only a few games ago we had a cracking effort against Batley.
I think the problem or part of it is that the Hull players have all but dried up and without them we are not that clever.
The other part for me is that we have little shape or structure and there is little evidence that we have done our homework and are targeting weaknesses in the opposition.
It is almost like the plays are made up on the spot.
RH from a big club should have the skills to sort the opposition in this league.
But he doesn't bring that.
I would wave bye bye and offer Craig Lawton the job.

It's always been my beef with RH that given his connections that we should be playing slick rugby like say Bradford.
From the off it never came .. he fared little better than Thornton and we flopped last season and we have NOT kicked on.

Wow! Damning indeed.

I don't agree ... but at a time in that game yesterday when any try would have won that game, even though we didn't deserve it,
RH could do nothing to bring that about.
A simple barge over or a bit of a criss cross move would have won it.
He does nothing from his ivory tower.
He hasn't given up ... we should give him up though.

The rugby under Thornton was literally 5 drives and a kick, terrible to watch. The rugby under Horne is just clueless. We have some very good league one players ( beharrell, kesik, Douglas, Tali, hedges, cox and recently Yere and Boas) but their playing like a team who don’t train together. Added that we don’t actually have a fullback which these days is a key position... they’re are some coaches out of work currently; Marshall, Pryce, Foster, even Rowley, all who I think would get a better tune out of this playing group then Horne.

For me the one constant in all these years of failure is our CEO.
Every year we fail to reach our objectives and every year we are hoodwinked in to believing that it will change.

Its not just money you need to succeed , its a well balanced team that want to play for each other and their coach, ......…...this is not what we are seeing at this moment in time.

Dumb plays with ball in hand , countless penalties and poor defence equate to the situation we find ourselves in at the moment.
We need a drastic turnaround, because I feel a loss to London will see RH relieved of his duties.