before todays embarrasing performance we had used no less than 33 players,that speaks volumes in itself . we have a group of good players what we dont have is a committed coach and a settled TEAM, Today we hosted a TEAM that had 1 win to their credit a group of average players who played as a TEAM, (is my point being made clear yet) I dont like to call for people to be sacked but R H does have our guys playing as a TEAM (that word again) Ive said on hear countless times that DR is a total waste or time for us, it doesnt work. I agree we need a coach whose commitments are 100 % Doncaster..today was one of the worst performances Ive ever SAD, SAD, day.

I don’t think the Crusaders are an average team. If you look at their results they have only been soundly beaten by Workington. They were beaten by Oldham and Keighley by only 2 points and they demolished West Wales by a similar margin to that which Oldham have done.
The standard of this league has risen and we have not improved at the same rate.

Based upon the quality of the match before us today and indeed several this season I have to disagree. I do not believe that it is the 'lower' teams that have raised their games but rather the rest of the teams have gotten worse.

The standard of rugby is terrible to the point that even though my season ticket has already paid for itself, so this was free in a sense, I still feel robbed.

Long before the final whistle I stopped caring about the result and just wanted it to be over.

This is not the entertaining free flowing rugby league we were promised. It is npt even entertainment. It is also not the form of a promotion chasing side as we awere promised.

It is time for the excuses to stop and everyone from us as fans, through players, coaches and management need to stop accepting the poor standard of our league and the teams around us an excuse to be poor ourselves.

We were told by Carl that this season would be different but this is the 3rd of 4th season relying on duel reg and it’s failing even worse than ever. This despite him paying them a significant chunk of our budget for them to send us 5 quality players each week... what we have ended up with is a couple of youngsters many of us have ever heard of each game. And now today one of the “better quality” ones refuses to play for us. I thought Carl told us pre season that all the Hull players loved playing for us and their all great lads... Carl please do the right thing by the club and sack the tinker man Horne and more importantly sack Hull off...

I agree with everything you say RD, I'll add an extra controversial point maybe its time for the CEO to fall on his sword and let someone else have a go.

I genuinely think RH has given up on this season, and if he has it's easy for the players to follow suit.

After yesterdays game i'm sure most of the players have as well.

Both Gary Thornton and Paul Cooke's services were dispensed with for playing a more entertaining brand of rugby than we are seeing under Horne.
Four defeats from seven games is hardly promotion winning form is it.

Maybe Carl has asked the team to ease off on their promotion push as a jolly to Ottawa and New York could be on the card for next season , which looks a much better prospect than a wet weekend in Bradford or Featherstone.

I'd debate whether it was more entertaining under Thornton, generally speaking, but I get your point

With the exception of Kesick , Beharrell and Douglas the team looks average at best , maybe another coach would motivate this supposed promotion challenging squad to do better.

I believe our players are a lot better than they showed yesterday. I don't have that many objections with the core of our squad, we're just not getting the best out of them

Well RH needs to start getting the best out of them sharpish , London look to be playing good rugby with the addition of Wilkinson and a couple of Toronto players so it could be a case of us receiving a beating from three of the lesser sides in the division unless we drastically improve.

I can't believe the coach or players have in any way given up on promotion ... a tidy run would get us right back in the mix.
And only a few games ago we had a cracking effort against Batley.
I think the problem or part of it is that the Hull players have all but dried up and without them we are not that clever.
The other part for me is that we have little shape or structure and there is little evidence that we have done our homework and are targeting weaknesses in the opposition.
It is almost like the plays are made up on the spot.
RH from a big club should have the skills to sort the opposition in this league.
But he doesn't bring that.
I would wave bye bye and offer Craig Lawton the job.

It's always been my beef with RH that given his connections that we should be playing slick rugby like say Bradford.
From the off it never came .. he fared little better than Thornton and we flopped last season and we have NOT kicked on.

Wow! Damning indeed.

I don't agree ... but at a time in that game yesterday when any try would have won that game, even though we didn't deserve it,
RH could do nothing to bring that about.
A simple barge over or a bit of a criss cross move would have won it.
He does nothing from his ivory tower.
He hasn't given up ... we should give him up though.

The rugby under Thornton was literally 5 drives and a kick, terrible to watch. The rugby under Horne is just clueless. We have some very good league one players ( beharrell, kesik, Douglas, Tali, hedges, cox and recently Yere and Boas) but their playing like a team who don’t train together. Added that we don’t actually have a fullback which these days is a key position... they’re are some coaches out of work currently; Marshall, Pryce, Foster, even Rowley, all who I think would get a better tune out of this playing group then Horne.