in the good old days we had a TEAM of players who played week in week out and most of them for more than a couple of seasons, so recognising players was not an issue, Now because we have near enough a new team every season then all the D/R farce by the time you can put a name to a face the season is about over, or is it me thats just getting old ???

I'm as disappointed as you with the programme as it fails to give us what we need - a list of players who are playing with their shirt numbers included.

From what Ray Green has said in the past, the selected players are not usually known until 2pm so they couldn't get them ready on Sunday morning.

I think the players should be banned from changing their hair styles as that throws me at the start of each season with many of them!

I don't want a list of squad numbers. I want a list of the 1 to 17 for both teams showing who is actually playing - like Ray used to do on his team sheets in previous seasons.

Paying 50p for the same list of squad numbers each time doesn't have much appeal.

In its present form the club will be lucky to sell any.

And I meant the 19 on both sides with numbers ... so we agree.
I am saying that claiming we don't know the playing players until 2pm on the Sunday is rot, apart from last minute pull-outs.

I'm glad we agree.

I'm only passing on what Ray Green said with regards to actual teams not being confirmed until 2pm.

I couldn't believe that Brad Fash was allowed to play in a shirt with no number last week. The RFL admin of the game seems non-existent. Teams announced by 1.30 at the latest - with all players allocated a shirt number doesn't seem too much to ask, does it?

And another thing...

The RFL ought to insist that all teams in our league submit a 19 man squad by 5pm on Friday for Sunday games with them showing the squads on their website. At the moment their website says, "Squad details to be announced shortly", giving no indication when shortly is.

Part of the build up to the weekend action, for me, is getting to know the squads on Friday. I really don't know how the RFL think the game will attract more fans when they don't get the basics right to keep current fans happy.

Nice try S/O. You're not going to persuade me that I need smartphone!

I need an RFL that know what they're doing!

The squad announcements at ou level are just a curesy, not all clubs do it and non e are obliged. Neither are the y onlibged to name a true squad, they could name 19 players and pick a completely diffeent one

In fact Workington this week named a player in their 17 who wasn't in their 19

That's true but the lack of information for the fans does nothing to improve the image of the game. In fact, it makes it look quite amateurish... but sadly that maybe where League One will be when the Sky deal ends.

Be intereting to see what he other clubs doing similar are offering

Just seen this on another website, a list of how other clubs do their programmes/matchday information:

Still in print (programme for individual matches): Barrow (£2.50), Coventry (£2), Dewsbury (£2.50, 24pp), Huddersfield (£3), Keighley (£3, 56pp), Leeds (£3, pp nk) London Broncos (£3, 40pp), London Skolars (£2.50), North Wales (£2, pp nk), Oldham (£3, 24pp), St Helens (£3), Salford (£3), Sheffield (£3, 40pp), Swinton (£3, 36pp), Toulouse (price/pp nk), Warrington (£3), West Wales (price/pp nk), Whitehaven (£2.50), Wigan (price/pp nk), Workington (price/pp nk), York (£3, 26pp)

Still in print (monthly magazine): Castleford (Roar, £1), Hull (The 18th Man, £1), Hunslet (South of the River, price n/k)

Still in print (matchday information sheet): Doncaster (two sides of A4, 50p)

Still in print (local newspaper insert): Bradford, Halifax, Wakefield

Digital only: Batley (free to download), Hull KR (register for free download), Leigh (free to download)

No programme of any description: Featherstone, Newcastle (though Thunder issued what appears to be a one-off 'physical' programme for the 25/3 Toronto double-header), Rochdale, Widnes

Interesting that only about half now produce a programme for each game, with many having digital only, or nothing at all