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| Does anyone know what happens to the remaining clubs?
If the divisions clubs find themselves in depends solely on their league placing, at this moment in time standing 12th in the Championship we would scrape in by the skin of our teeth.
Is there going to be another, thus far unmentioned, division below those 2/3 from which there is also relegation and promotion, or are 11 clubs being kicked to touch?
I am assuming there will be another tier, but I can't really have an opninion until I know
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| Thanks for that DonsNews & Carl, very interesting . By the way I havent got any rose tinted glasses but I like a glass of rose'.
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| Good question jemmo, there is still lots to learn about the" proposed " system , one that i feel is already on it's way, regardless of any consultation. But reading Carls thoughts on the matter, he seems to think it will be to the benefit of the Dons , and he is in a much better position to judge it than i am. Only time will tell of course.
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| Quote: Jemmo "Does anyone know what happens to the remaining clubs?
If the divisions clubs find themselves in depends solely on their league placing, at this moment in time standing 12th in the Championship we would scrape in by the skin of our teeth.
Is there going to be another, thus far unmentioned, division below those 2/3 from which there is also relegation and promotion, or are 11 clubs being kicked to touch?
I am assuming there will be another tier, but I can't really have an opninion until I know'"
rlHere's what is proposedrl
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| Im sure someone can put me right here, how are fixtures decided?, could , for instance let's say castleford, play wigan, Leeds,and warrington away, finish in the bottom four, not make it back for the following season, but be successful the season after , and play wigan, Leeds and warrington away again and finish in the bottom four..............you see where im going. In theory they could go years without a home game against the top sides , with only playing once, can't see how it can be fair. someone please enlighten me. might be a daft question , but I'll risk it.
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| I understand where you're coming from donny hkr. It is an inherent weakness in a structure where every team doesn't play each other home and away. There would have to be some sort of "grading" system in place whereby you played your fair share of good teams at home and your fair share of not so good teams at home, but that would be subjective and I suspect everyone would find something unappealing about their list of games.
It's interesting to see that Carl is very much in favour of the two-leagues of 12 set-up, splitting into three groups of 8.
In the points I made earlier, I suggested that the key is finance. Generating more money for the game is what will determine whether RL moves forwards or not. Carl seems to think the changes will help to market the product. I hope he is right as we all want to see rugby league flourish and improve.
Carl obviously has a greater insight and understanding of these matters than we do. I had reservations about certain aspects of the proposals but if Carl thinks it's the way forward, then I'm prepared to give it my support too.
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| Just one thought will the clubs in the proposed SL 2 from the championship need to go full time to compete.
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| Would have thought they would at a distinct disadvantage if they don't , financially however ....?
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| Yes I agree .
Also I hope clubs in the Championship do not overspend in 2014 in order to ensure a SL 2 slot in 2015.
I am sure we will not.
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| Yes Im sure your right, the Dons board will not make that mistake
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| A proposed regionalised structure below SL2 with promotion & relegation between them.
The number of clubs will depend on new clubs eg Coventry Bears & talks of a 2nd French club Toulouse entering SL2.
If this system was given the green light on Monday we would be in the regionalised competition , however if we avoid relegation this season & come in the top 9 or 10 in 2014 wecould find ourselves in SL2 in 2015.
Any thoughts ?
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| The bottom four in our league would certainly be in the regional league in 2015. This would increase to 5 if Toulouse were definitely included, which looks almost certain.
We're all fretting about the possibility of finishing in the bottom two this season, so I suppose next season will be more than twice as tense!
It would be very bad for the game if teams overspent next year in an attempt to avoid the trap door as the competition will be even tougher considering what is at stake.
Those that do get relegated could find themselves in a very tough regional competition and getting back into the second tier of 12 would be quite tough.
At the other extreme, it gives all clubs hope of pitting themselves against the very best much more quickly than can posssibly happen now, which is what the majority outside the current Super League want.
It certainly gives the likes of the Dons opportunities that we wouldn't otherwise have, but the added competition means we will have to work hard to stay in the second tier of 12.
I don't think we should focus on the possibility of being in the regional league, although this could happen. We should see it as an opportunity to push on and continue the good progress the club has made in recent seasons.
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| Agree with those last few points there what you say involving the dons.
we will have to keep working hard and improving and hopefully we will have a chance to move higher up, which is what everyone wants.
But i still think the RFL should be putting more finances to the lower clubs who 'qualify'.
it,s up to them where they get it from as this is there baby!
but it will definately be needed for this to work on some sort of decent level.
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| Leaving it as it is, but bringing in p and r between all divisions would also open up a way to the top division, without a number of clubs gambling on their futures by going full time prematurely . Im not sure how much coverage, as regards tv etc, the sl2 , or after the split , the middle and bottom 8 would receive. If it concentrates on the top 8 comp, as you would expect; do those in that get the lions share of money. Will there be much interest at all in the bottom 8, where for most clubs the season has virtually ended, unless your bottom, there's nothing to play for, you go back where you started.How does that generate interest . Im one that needs convincing, because at the moment , i just think it's a bad idea. I know the club feel it's a good idea , they must have far more of an insight than most average fans
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| Agree 100% with last 3 posters, it wouldnot be the end of the world if we were in the regionals, at least there will be promotion .
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