The reason why you may have felt you were being ganged up on was because your early posts were using a confrontational tone. This was unlikely to endear people to your point of view. Once you started to debate properly and explained why you feel the way you feel, there was some headway made in getting a decent debate going.

I really enjoy a good debate and that's why I like coming on here. Throughout my life I've learned the most from listening to what others have to say. I don't always agree with people but if they can put a compelling argument for their case, I can often be persuaded to change my mind.

I'm certainly not a "yes man" and always want to listen to both sides of a story but I'm not going to be convinced that someone else is right if they simply tell me I'm wrong.

Maybe there's something we can all learn from your suggestion that it feels like a clique and perhaps we can all do more to make new posters not feel that way.

Maybe fresh ideas and a different approach could be the way? The club is in a huge rut and it seems some of the fans are happy to accept this, i'm not advocating pitchforks outside houses but where's the passion? as paying fans we can push for change instead of sitting on our hands and taking whatever garbage is being thrown at us

Hally said on his last posting “where’s the passion?” and I have to agree with him. Where is the passion? The fighting spirit of The Dons supporters seems to have disappeared.

Apart from the ‘passion’ where is the compassion? Carl has made some mistakes and I’m sure he would be the first to admit it, but aren’t we all capable of that? Instead of ‘kicking’ the man when he’s down, isn’t it now that he needs our support more than ever?

Come on you Dons! Let’s get behind Carl and the lads and pool our resources. We have done it before and can do it again.

Hally under the new system fresh ideas are being tried. Any suggestions you might have will be very welcome. Nobody has a monopoly on new ideas. We all, it seems, want the same end so don't be reticent if you have something to offer.

Maybe the last 8 or 9 forum meetings the issue of our discipline has been questioned but still we are no closer sorting it out and its killing us every sunday, also questions asked to carl on itd never gets fully answered, I get the feeling carl hates the thought of anyone questioning his authority and any suggestions gets quickly swept under the carpet. The club have to say there willing to listen to any ideas but cmon we all know that ain't the case. For me it boils down to how many times can I take being lied to

May be Hally you have no confidence in your fellow fans .

I attended my first fans forum & I thought there was a positive interaction between club officials & fans . The club are going to put proposals out on how to increase base . The fans will then say what they think & reply .

May be you should put aside the fact you have no confidence in club or its officials . I did & am hopeful for better times ahead .

Consider giving them another chance .

I really do feel the club are wanting to listen to the fans more. Here's some more details on one of the things we raised at the fans meeting about season tickets: Not knowing when the fixtures will be after the league splits makes buying a season ticket much less attractive. Firstly the club acknowledged the problem and said they'd look into it and further consult with the fans as to how season ticket purchasing could best work better for us. Hence this is one of the reasons why season tickets won't be going on sale early this year.

They also wanted to see if there were other ways the fans could be rewarded for showing loyalty to the club when buying season tickets. Gavin Baldwin said that the initiatives the Rovers had used to include various different season ticket packages had gone down really well. He was going to see what could be done for us.

Hally, I understand your concerns about Carl not fully answering questions on In The Dugout, we need to point that out to him and see if things can be improved. In The Dugout is a really good concept. I'm not sure how many other teams at our level will be trying to interact with fans in this way. I'd like to give the club and Carl some credit for doing it but it's a good point, we do need to look at how it can be made better.

The issue you raised about penalties is probably one for Richard Horne. Giving away penalties must really be a coach killer. We see it time after time in all the games we watch. One of the Hull tries in the Cup Final was on the back of a really silly Wigan penalty.

I used to post a lot on here but have to admit i have lost a bit of interest in the game due to various reasons. I now find that having followed the Dons home and away for many years i don't have the time to commit to it as i did previously, once you break the habit of going it's hard to get back into it.

Good point Rupertbear.

After all the pre season hype from CH about " the largest budget ","going for promotion" ,"we need to get out of this division bla bla bla the season has been an embarrassing failure.
We need to face facts, we are a poor team in a poor division where the standard of rugby is bordering on amateur and we are still only a mid table side.
A team that snatches defeat from the hand of victory, with a CEO that is only too happy to tell loyal fans that its wrong to criticize when they have paid their hard earned cash to watch games thrown away through silly penalties and lack of discipline.

Crowds are dropping as people find other things to do on a Sunday, than pay £15 to watch paint dry.

I have held a season ticket since the great days at Tattersfield, but chose to pay as I went this year.
That is something I have not regretted , even though I have attended all but two home games this year , i will be doing the same next year unless I am convinced other wise.

GT was appointed as he was "The man with the knowledge of the division" and what did he bring............Poor player recruitment, boring rugby and disappointed.
CH said it was GT's team and he had nothing to do with the selection but as I see it he was the man who appointed the man that was going to ensure our trips to the rugby wilderness would be short lived.

Now all we receive is the drivel from "The dugout".

For the love of God please knock this tripe on the head because you are turning the club in to a laughing stock.
Excuse after excuse and never a straight answer given, then calling fans for voicing an opinion.
I think a job in politics beckons Mr Hall when his tenure in RL is over ,which with any luck will be after next weeks game.

Club Doncaster need to look at the Dons and decide if they want the club to move forward with a new CEO or leave it to die a slow painful death under the currant one.
Carl thanks for all you have done ,but it really is time to go.

I like Carl ... what I question is his judgement.
I don't want him to go, I want him to stay.
But we really do need to pick better coaches ... I mean, if we got a good one, he may stay years and get us to where we want to be.
At the risk of banging on ... we haven't had a stand out coach since Ellery and possibly Paul Cooke.

Get bloody John Kear in.

I don't think anyone dislikes carl and he does take a lot of flak but most of that is brought on by himself, just look at some of his statements and targets over the last couple of years and tell me how many of those he has hit? The weekly ITD episodes are just cringeworthy with him waffling rubbish whilst somehow blaming everybody else but him, we are a broken unattractive club and attendances will only fall until something is done about it.

I will reserve judgement on RH as this is not his team and i think he deserves a season with his own players.
However looking forward, where are the next generation of supporters coming from, the clubs fan base is shrinking rapidly.
The highlights reels of the games are disheartening as we see undoubtably the best stadium in the league 95% empty, surely we can follow York and get a regular 1000 fans coming through the gate.

I enjoy a beer or two around York every now and again with work colleagues and have attended two of their home games this year when the Dons have had a free weekend or been away at the back of beyond .
They seem to go the extra mile to put bums on seats offering two for one deals and generating a good atmosphere , something that is lacking at the KM

We need to encourage more spectators and sponsors ,do we actually have anyone other than CH and his cronies in the boxes on match days?

What is wrong with giving the empty hospitality boxes to companies free or at a small charge and who knows we may pick up one or two additional sponsors along the way.

With further expansion teams muted to be joining the competition i fear we will rot and fester in this division until such a time as Club Doncaster see fit to cut us loose.

I know sports fans from the town are a fickle bunch but why the hell cant a town as big as Doncaster attract more than 500 people to watch the greatest game of all in what are fantastic facilities.

That question can only be answered by the stay away fans.
Over to you Carl