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| Cross had a start against keighley and its a shame to say he's just not good enough. Not strong enough defensively to make a difference. He will
Come good against the poorer sides for scoring tries but I think that's his extent.
Can't see picketts being back in the team how many chances does one person get?
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| Moonlight , we have injuries , but we have a squad of 30 players.
I donot know if any players have left ?
Think its a bit unfair to pick out Cross .
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| I will post on this tomorrow, although you don't have to be Einstein to see what is wrong. They are giving up! Because all they do is defend because we have no attack and they are knackered.
I know one thing ... I ain't watching that crap! As a season ticket holder I stopped watching that crap long before the end of last season.
Players who were shoite last season are taking the p/ss in beating us up this season.
I don't really relish watching Carl excuse this latest debacle ... he deserves better!
Sackings are in order!
I thought we had turned the corner and good times were ahead, but without Carr and Feka we are useless in attack.
Sort the Howden thing for goodness sake!
Goodnight
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| Surely Carl has some responsibility in the matter , no he doesn't coach the team or play ,but he can lead he must see everyone isn't pulling together. May be the wins in the first two matches papered over the cracks.
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| I think we need Gary Thornton to appear on In The Dugout. Here are seven questions for him:
Q1) Having seen the pack beaten in the last two matches, do you feel we have the strength and power to compete up-front with the better sides in the league?
Q2) Why is the discipline so poor? Yellow cards for backchat and late tackles are very unprofessional. Do we discipline players for such behaviour?
Q3) In the York game, did it not cross the mind of any of the coaches to suggest that in the second half we kick off into the sun? It was a nightmare seeing the ball coming out of the sinking sun, as Matty Welham knows all too well from what happened to him in the first half.
Q4) Chopping and changing the side on a weekly basis cannot be a good thing. Should we be aiming to get three Hull players on long-term loan deals to help with selection consistency?
Q5) I believe part of the reason why we give away so many penalties is because we're constantly on the back foot due to being over-powered by the opposition. We have to resort to non-legal means to slow them down. We could help ourselves by making sure the third man in the tackle takes the legs instead of also going high. Will we be working on this? At times, the York players were still able to keep moving forwards even when we had three men in the tackle.
Q6) Having conceded 94 points in the last two matches, supporters don't just have alarms bells ringing, their heads are exploding. Having seen four competitive matches, where do you think we will finish in the league?
Q7) What would you say to supporters who are thinking of giving up on the team after what has happened in the last 15 months?
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| The two teams that we have been humiliated by both had proper playmakers who were nippy and inventive.
They both had forwards of some repute.
We beat Keighley because we had some of that on loan from Hull plus Carr for a large spell.
Without those we don't have any stars, nothing to make a well set up team like York worry in particular.
You could see who was going to win in the warm up for Christ's sake.
It was TANGIBLE, you could feel it!
They looked FITTER, more muscular and more importantly they looked like they were confident and we're up for it.
More ORGANISED.
We kicked off like rank amateurs against York spilling the ball repeatedly and looking like we had sh/t our shorts in fear!
No Feka to drive us forward, it was all left to Aizue, who is no spring chicken now to do the hard work.
One man!
If we are to carry on with this nonsense DR we need someone has big as Abdul in the halves.
Little guys won't cut it unless they are brilliant.
Fullback being chopped and changed is a recipe for disaster.
Halves not familiar with each other and classy is a recipe for disaster.
Forwards not big enough is a recipe for disaster.
Put them together and you have the Dons at the moment ... disaster!
A side runs on fitness,organisation and confidence ... oh and support.
I suggest that the organisation is what is letting this side down, the others can be fixed.
But if there is no money, if there is no will to respond then we will have a fair old rocky season ahead.
The only way is to go out and get three class players from somewhere that the opposition have heard of and aren't on loan from Hull.
I am not interested in excuses about availability and money, just get a bank loan out or there will be no support!
When teams take on the Dons they look at us and think 'who are you,who are you?'
Because apart from Aizue, they've never heard of any of us ... nobodies.
The table already shows where we are at after only three games ... alright we have lost one game, but we are seventh and all teams above us are decent and all the ones below are not.
We are the best team out of the crap, and that's about right ... but with our confidence shot through.
Time for change ... now!
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| Thornton talks about Fortress Keepmoat - I've seen more stable sandcastles.
I understand it's a new side but yesterday's side looked like they'd never met before.
If it's possible for us humble supporters to see from the stands what the ref is or isn't letting go (defence moving up before the ball's played, laying on at the ptb etc) then how come the coach doesn't seem to see it and get the message onto the field?
Kick offs: we can't defend them, we can't vary them, we can't use them as an attacking ploy. Why not kick for touch to force a scrum for a change - York did it to good effect.
I'm sorry but when last year's cast offs come back and we make them look like quality, something is seriously wrong. Ok, they have points to prove but weren't we expecting this?
A bloke in the crowd before kick off said that York were confident that they had the best pack in the division. Again, if the Donny fans know it, why don't the coaching staff apparently don't know it? If they did, they didn't seem to show it by altering tactics. Why bother trying to take them on up front (or persist in trying to take their pack on) if it's obviously not working?
We just haven't got a clue.
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| Quote: Gerry Monside "
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| Good post Double Movement .
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| A lot of it has to be team selection and that's down to one person!
players were left in the stand against Hunslet who SHOULD have been playing, who weren't injured.
youv'e got to pick your best team every week not rest some for the week after and get continuity and familiarity.
yes we do have some injuries but as someone mentioned we have a big squad and they all have been selected
for there parts because someone thought they had the ability.
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| Club Doncaster is a disaster ....
The Rovers are useless and the Dons are useless.
Now there are several combinations of reasons why this might be so ... you could supply some of your own.
Let's have a few stabs ....
Both coaches are useless and if they had any respect they would resign.
Both sides are useless and players should be offloaded smartish.
Club Doncaster is a penny pinching useless entity.
Now the truth is the answer is a combination of these things.
But I favour Rovers is a penny pinching useless entity that won't spend money on decent players and that as such we are shafted and aren't going anywhere ever!
Both coaches useless? Can that be? I bet they are as frustrated as eunochs in a harem.
As frustrated as kids with their noses pressed up against the chocolate shop's window and no money in their pockets.
Did York just hoover up our players, some of which were good? Or did they give them a little bonus to come? I think I know.
Once again we have assembled a side not fit for the rigours of this division. once again boys against men.
Underdeveloped youths against some real men with muscle.
It can only go one way.
For a while we looked really promising, but the bubble has burst. We can't play just on confidence and enthusiasm alone, because when such class as we have is out of the team (Carr and Feka) we crumble because we've not really got much class left.
And what class we might have is sitting in the stand.
Having said that, it looks like both coaches have lost the players and might as well not exist.
You simply can't say like Ferguson does that the second half against Colchester was some of the worst football ever seen, fans aren't interested in that! Fans want to know what you intend to do about it. They can see for themselves how crap it was.
So my damning endictment is that both teams are rubbish, Club Doncaster is rubbish and although I have much sympathy, both coaches ought to walk away from the penny pinching gits.
But a job's a job.
I couldn't work for them though.
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| Some interesting reading about the club
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| Well here's my opinion so far for what it's worth:
1. I still say PC should have stayed as he would have greatly improved things if actually allowed the time, players and budget but we expected it all straight away. If it takes 2/3 seasons to achieve and maintain that then so be it!
2. We let quality players go who had proved their worth in a Dons shirt but hadn't fully recovered from injuries, drop in form etc...again expecting everything immediately on their return. Boy did some of them show us up on Friday. Cast offs somebody said....so what shall we label their replacements cos none of em are near as good? Most players brought in for this season are unknown and nearer conference league standard IMO.
3. We only looked ok in previous showings cos we relied on the old DR players showing out (which really means Hulls' injured/rested/available are holding us up)!
4. No discipline or respect for the coaching team judging by some of the disgraceful & dirty play shown on Friday by some.
Early days thankfully but we need some decent players bringing in pretty sharpish on decent contracts, and a known coach with a good reputation who can sort this out or this is gonna be a long, hard season!
Happy Easter all!!
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| Where are the "marquee" signings?
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| I was wondering when this footage would re-appear.
Its not a question I have an answer to Geoff. It should be one for the man who holds the money that runs the club IMO
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