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| Quote SteveRoebuck="SteveRoebuck"Has anyone got any real evidence to prove that they are not.'" Has anyone got any proof that they are, with the exception of conjecture??
Quote SteveRoebuckFrom an pure outsiders point of view I can see that we have chosen this year to undertake a youth policy of recruitment despite being told we have some lofty transfer targets and the squads biggest every playing budget.'" We have had the biggest budget in a long, long time, and that came from people within the club, and outside (the sort of people who know what sort of players to market at the club), it was the decision of Cooke and the immediate management (Hall and to an extent, the coaching staff and John Scarrow) not to go out and spend this money immediately, they took the (somewhat brave) decision to try and build crowds before they take the plunge and go for the more expensive players. This is an admirable policy, I know one of the close season targets signed a new contract with his (Super League) club over the winter and remains with them, instead of being here.
Quote SteveRoebuckThe Rovers have managed to continue to sign players both in September and in January all of which I would imagine cost more per week and signing fee's than a decent Semi Pro rugby player.'" All from a different budget..
Quote SteveRoebuckOf course we are entitled to our opinions and they may differ, some people are unlikely to agree with me, some might and this forum only represents a small portion of the Dons supporters or the people of Doncaster, but I have never seen anything official or supplementary evidence to say I am wrong or that we have this supposed "biggest playing budget ever".'" I can understand your opinion, but at the same time, I feel you're wrong with what you've put.
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| So clearly from what you have put you seem to be in the know and have an official word from the club regarding this and as such are an approved spokesperson of "Club Doncaster".
You are saying that Carl had a large influence in the decision to sign youth, surely that should have been the coaches roll to pick the players he wanted to sign not that of Carl.
Your views and the article in question seem to be in contradiction, taking over the Dons and I am paraphrasing here was to enable the Rover to access more income to support Paul Dickov's push for a higher league position but the reverse is not true as you have just stated the Rovers and Dons are using a separate budget for players.....doesnt add up to me.
Clearly PC has now come to the realisation that the recruitment over the break hasn't worked as intended and something needs to be done to address this rather than relying on dual reg players from Hull as this is having a negative effect on the team spirit and morale as long serving players are being dropped on a whim on the seeming behest of our Hull overlords.
As I have said before Hunslet is a very big game for the team, on paper from last season we should win and I feel failure to do so will lead to more and more rumors and speculation especially if players who faced up against a clear quality outfit in Leigh are simply replaced with someone Hull wants getting fit....its going to be interesting to see the fall out should we loose once more. I do hope it isn't the case and I am completely proved wrong and this match provides a catalyst to kick on from...we'll know on Monday.
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| Quote SteveRoebuck="SteveRoebuck"Has anyone got any real evidence to prove that they are not.
From an pure outsiders point of view I can see that we have chosen this year to undertake a youth policy of recruitment despite being told we have some lofty transfer targets and the squads biggest ever playing budget.
The Rovers have managed to continue to sign players both in September and in January all of which I would imagine cost more per week and signing fee's than a decent Semi Pro rugby player.
I would tend to feel that that are not using the Dons for personal gains but in line with the article are using the Dons success of last year and the ground share to fund the Rovers push in League one and as a result of this we are left to feed on the scraps.
We are given the impression that we are "in this together" with the Rovers as one club and with the wages/fees associated with signing even a middling FL1 player I am pretty sure we could have assembled a squad who would have run Leigh much closer than we did and would have no doubt registered some league points by now.
As I said before PC and CH are employed by club Doncaster so its always going to be the case they are don't speak out as they would be employment suicide for them both.
Of course we are entitled to our opinions and they may differ, some people are unlikely to agree with me, some might and this forum only represents a small portion of the Dons supporters or the people of Doncaster, but I have never seen anything official or supplementary evidence to say I am wrong or that we have this supposed "biggest playing budget ever".'"
Dead right,couldn't agree more.Rovers puppets and that's it.,which is why the Keepmoat doesn't have an sign up saying home of Doncaster rlfc.
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| If i look out my window i can see tattersfield, although deepthroat has a nice surface and surroundings we lost a major part of our identity when relocating. everyday i walk the mutt over the same patch a certain mr vila used to bury his opposite number! ahh reminiscing and only in my mid 30s COYD
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| Bang out of order Mister calling the club Rovers Puppets. Not one bit of truth in it. Shocking thing to come out with. Idiotic is too kind.
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| Its an opinion Moonlight just like you we are all allowed one, we dont have to agree.
At the moment we are all speculating and can only comment on what we perceive to be happening behind closed doors, I'll happily be proved wrong but no one "officially" from the club has come forth and refuted the claims or quashed the rumors as I said before this site represents a very small and shrinking percentage of the Dons support. I am sure there are many people out there who share both points of view and they are perfectly entitled to do so.
Hopefully something official will come out to confirm or deny this but on the evidence I can see currently I'll stick with my opinion..in short tried to assemble a semi competitive young team on the cheap and hoped the Hull DR players would help us drag out some results, its clear to me on back end of last season, friendlies and start of this season its not working and something needs to change. I can only speculate on the why aim for youth and on that we disagree.
We do however universally all agree that we want the Dons to start winning and secure their place in this division, the long this is left the harder it will become to fix.
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| Steve have you even seen these new players play , thought you and Geoff don't go watch any more so why even comment . There wasn't any prize money either the position you finished in the league determind what amount you got for the next season and all of the money was spent on contracts . I doubt the club makes any money to fund the rovers with keyboard supporters like you . Your opinion counts for nothing if you don't go and watch . Why don't you spend your time playing mine craft instead
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| Quote crazylegs="crazylegs"Steve have you even seen these new players play , thought you and Geoff don't go watch any more so why even comment . There wasn't any prize money either the position you finished in the league determined what amount you got for the next season and all of the money was spent on contracts . I doubt the club makes any money to fund the rovers with keyboard supporters like you . Your opinion counts for nothing if you don't go and watch . Why don't you spend your time playing mine craft instead'"
You are quite right I have no attended this year as I don't agree with the ground share with the Eagles. But I don't see the need to launch a personal attack against me or my father.
We can all sling mud and its an easy way out to throw insults and call names, as I have said on several occasions its an opinion we all have different ones and we don't have to agree.
So you can only comment now if you attend or hold a season ticket for the club well they best change the way you sign up to the site, as clearly opinions of those who haven't seen every game clearly have zero value.
Just for reference its Minecraft not mine craft.
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| I'm not into throwing mud; so I'm not going to. Democracy is all about differing opinions and we have to respect each others, even if we don't agree with them. I've made my views clear in earlier posts.
One of the issues that keeps spinning round in my head is that so many people have different reasons for not watching the Dons any more:
1) We don't play at Tattersfield
2) We play at the Keepmoat
3) The tie up with Donny Rovers through Club Doncaster
4) The Dual Reg system
5) The club's player recruitment policy
* If we moved out of the Keepmoat some people would stop going because it'd be deemed to be showing a lack of ambition as we can't get into Super League without it.
* If we became detached from Donny Rovers our infrastructure would become more insecure and a greater drain would be put on our resources through increased admin costs. Some would see it as a backward step.
* If the DR system was scrapped some people would say that we would be increasing our chances of relegation and we won't be competitive in matches
* If we started to try to recruit experienced players now, there would be criticism that we are shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted.
[i[uAll of these would then become reasons why OTHER people might not attend games.[/u[/i
Why can't we all simply pull together, get behind the team and club, and help the club move forward?
We can have discussions about the internal workings of the club as secondary issues but as supporters we need to attend games, and back those that work so hard behind the scenes to bring us rugby league in Doncaster.
Realistically, I believe we need to get crowds of 2,000+ in this division in order to have any chance of getting into Super League. I would appeal to all past Dons fans not to be a stay away, give the club your support, and we may just achieve the aim we all want of top flight rugby league in Doncaster.
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| I would agree with a lot of what you have said DM and a very sensible post for my part I dont go for a couple of reasons.
3) The tie up with Donny Rovers through Club Doncaster
4) The Eagles "arrangement"
5) The club's player recruitment policy
I think communication from the club is terrible, I've heard several Radio adverts on Hallam for the upcoming Rovers game, anything for the Dons...nope.
Press coverage is scant, use of social media is scant apart from the excellent score updates on Twitter (abet sometimes depressing). Without actively going and looking I have no idea when and where the Dons are playing it should be in my face like Club Doncaster are doing with The Rovers.
Many of the former fans I have spoken to have stopped going for one or all of the above reasons and some due to just loosing interest in the sport in general due to poor refereeing and the way the game is now played (see lack of skill and guile).
Everyone posting here wants the club to succeed, but they really do keep scoring some massive own goals.
IMHO they have missed a massive opportunity to engage with the young people of Doncaster by partnering up with Selby (yes Selby) college for the Club Doncaster Academy programme, not Doncaster College in the heart of the town where two of its first team squad play....a very strange decision for me.
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| The club doncaster theme Is well supported by the rovers , it plain to see that they want the dons in this league or higher just for the extra revenue it brings in take the last two home games 1350 1600 fans all buying drinks and food they won't let us go down what's in it for them if we are only going to 3 or 400 fans in championship 1 we got a lot more games like the fev and Leigh games to come , not Gloucester Oxford or Coventry so keep the faith
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| I'm not attacking you Steve I just can't see how you can comment on the signings if you haven't seen them play . If the Eagles playing at the keepmoat is stopping you from going just leave after the Dons game .what difference does it make . Things are never going to be like there where at tatters field times have changed if we were still there we would need to be at a place like the keepmoat to get into super league anyway . Come on Steve stop making excuses get yourself back down and see what's happening at the club for yourself we need all the support we can get
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