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| 14 penalties and 6 incorrect play of the balls! Once again our over enthusiastic coach says it's a lesson learned and we need to improve on that, there's honestly more life in a junior aspirin! Indiscipline has been a big downfall for years with us and we're still not learning, i see no passion or fire in horne's belly, this isn't an over reaction from the last 2 games as we were never winning those competitions but he just doesn't seem like a coach who could make an inspiring team talk at HT if his side was losing.
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| The rule states that the ball shall be put into the scrum from the referees side by holding it in a horizontal position with a point in each hand and rolling along the ground into the tunnel formed by the front row forwards.
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| Nothing would turn me off rugby league more than slowing the scrums down; it is the single most frustrating thing about watching Rugby Union.
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| Generally speaking most scrums are fed according to the rules, the tunnel is formed by a props legs so they hold their near side leg back and widen the tunnel, as long as the ball is in front of that, regardless of the direction the ball is going, that rule is met. There's nothing that says it needs to be placed in the centre of that tunnel or perpendicular to the scrum.
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| If the referees are adhering to the rules why dont they ever penalise the player who feeds the ball into the scrum with one hand.
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Quote: Jemmo "Nothing would turn me off rugby league more than slowing the scrums down; it is the single most frustrating thing about watching Rugby Union.'"
I agree with this wholeheartedly. Even by the 1980s, most players had worked out "spoiling tactics" at scrums to cause delays/disrupt the scrum, and they were really hard to police even then, and coaching methods are a lot more sophisticated now.
As an example, here's a scrum that formed in the last minute of the 1983 CC semi final between Featherstone and Bradford (starts at around 33:15). As a Fev fan whose team was winning I thought it was a thing of beauty at the time, but honestly it was a proper mess and by no means unusual, my strongest memory of scrums in the 1980 is of constant similar collapses and a bit of an arbitrary wrestle for the ball from the scrum halves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu87pBQlq7E&t=430s
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Quote: Jemmo "Nothing would turn me off rugby league more than slowing the scrums down; it is the single most frustrating thing about watching Rugby Union.'"
I agree with this wholeheartedly. Even by the 1980s, most players had worked out "spoiling tactics" at scrums to cause delays/disrupt the scrum, and they were really hard to police even then, and coaching methods are a lot more sophisticated now.
As an example, here's a scrum that formed in the last minute of the 1983 CC semi final between Featherstone and Bradford (starts at around 33:15). As a Fev fan whose team was winning I thought it was a thing of beauty at the time, but honestly it was a proper mess and by no means unusual, my strongest memory of scrums in the 1980 is of constant similar collapses and a bit of an arbitrary wrestle for the ball from the scrum halves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu87pBQlq7E&t=430s
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