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Quote: Jemmo "Even under people like Singe there were chunks of fans who left saying "I won't come again while he is here". Most of which never came back even when he had gone. No one will ever be universally liked, it's a sliding scale'"

I agree, no one's going to be liked by everyone but I thought the fans stuck by Paul Cooke incredibly well when we had that horrendous season in the championship and finished bottom, after finishing fourth the previous season. I don't recall any forum discussions about wanting him sacked even though we were doing so badly.

I didn't want Paul Cooke to go. For whatever reason, the club (and maybe Paul Cooke) went down the youth policy route, rather then investing in more experience, and it went wrong. I recall a 'meet the players' event before the season started where the young lads were paraded. Many of them left as the season progressed as they weren't getting picked. We ended up with a thin squad.

I always had a lot of time for Tony Miller. He was easy to talk to and a good guy. I'm not sure he got the credit he deserved.

Richard Horne is pretty much a 'mystery man'. He doesn't just keep his cards close to his chest, he keeps them under his skin! The lack of closer contact with supporters probably doesn't help him build any sort of bond with the fans, which doesn't help with his popularity. Maybe that doesn't bother him, maybe that's the type of person he is. I don't know.

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Quote: Wanderer "Is that the one (and you may remember this) where Gavin says Richard continues to have Carl's backing and Carl continues to have mine.'"

I remember it well. It was part of the reason you and I started to become disillusioned with the purpose of the Fans Panel.

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The fans panel always struck me as an "illusion of being involved" event, similar to the SLO role - Barry did a great job at challenging the status quo, but since then it's been much more "let's just pretend everything is great".

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Quote: Double Movement "I remember it well. It was part of the reason you and I started to become disillusioned with the purpose of the Fans Panel.'"

Yes, one of a number of reasons not to take the process seriously.

It was no real surprise when the more 'open' forum gave way to the Club significantly reducing the number of supporter representatives who they were prepared to have dialogue with.

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Quote: Wanderer "Yes, one of a number of reasons not to take the process seriously.

It was no real surprise when the more 'open' forum gave way to the Club significantly reducing the number of supporter representatives who they were prepared to have dialogue with.'"

The current arrangements also require the fans within the group to sign up to certain Ts&Cs. This was when Wanderer and I left.

Barry Brown did an excellent job as SLO. He really tried hard to help bridge the gap between club and fans. I miss him posting on here. His successor, Carol Green, didn't have the best of health and missed a considerable number of the meetings. I've not seen Carol at the matches this season. I hope she's okay. As far as I'm aware there is no SLO now.

A vibrant link between club and fans is important. The ability for fans to pose questions and get answers matters. If I was in charge, building proper links with fans would be top of my list of priorities. Difficult questions shouldn't be considered as an inconvenience, they should be seen as an opportunity to bring everyone together.

Does Barry post on Facebook at all?

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Those scripted interviews inside Carl's office used to make me cringe, the questions that were asked was that rehed he used to start answering them before the question had finished! Club doncaster have built up a cult following that are sent out to shoot down anyone who dare question the regime.

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